ABB, for sure!!!

Soooo...your vote isn't based on what is best for the county but on who someone isn't? How do you know that you wouldn't consider your abb candidate actually worse than what you think you have now? Do as you wish but that's not wisdom.

On the contrary, Floyd, my vote is definitely in what I perceive to be the best interests of the county and its citizens. You could show me that Hunter is a child-molesting degenerate who attended the University of Florida and I'd STILL vote for him as the better candidate over that lying, condescending friend of yours.

Look, neither one of us is going to change the other's mind, so why not drop it? I don't like him, and none of your strawman arguments will change that.

But Ed

He can’t leave you as the last response …
New entry in 3,2,1
(smiles)

I AM ….. Insubordinate!

Let me get this straight...you would vote for a child molester to hold public office. Magawd...Ed...you are 100% usda certified grade A NUTS.

I'm glad that there are a lot more of me and a heck of a lot less of you out in the world. I would refer to you as a moron but I don't wanna insult morons.

And then there's R...who is such a beaudreau hater that he treats someone who would vote for a child molester as comical. Says a lot about you R as well.

As usual, Floyd, you didn't read what I said, which was "If YOU (emphasis mine) were to show me, etc." YOU showing it would carry about as much water with me as the Teleprompter in Chief doing so.

Besides, you've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a horse's patootie about what you think. I've addressed your responses with mine...and yours are no more worthy than mine. Go your way and I'll go mine; I certainly will feel a lot cleaner my way.

As far as R finding me comical, I think it's a carryover from Floyd's postings in general. His inability to see, or even consider, any flaws in his candidate are comical in the extreme, and as such few on here that I can see actually take him seriously. Most just like to goad him into his excessive cheerleading and Kool-Aid drinking.

Ed...stop trying to get around your own words...you were a cold idiot in what you said. Everyone here could read that you would vote for a child molester. Why in God's name you would ever even think of using that as a comparison in the first place is beyond me. Molestation is one of the most horrible forms of life altering abuse you can inflict on a human being and you making any comparison to it was stone cold idiotic and the worst form of stupid. I'm comforted by the fact that there are so very few of people like you and a lot of people who are nothing like you. That's good not just for me but for all of us.

Disagreement about political issues is one thing. You not only crossed a line you took a day trip about 100 miles past it. If you had any character you would simply take a breath and apologize to the community here.

@Pink
Actually I was poking a bit of fun at ya because you apparently try and enter the last volley in just about ANY exchange on here you're involved in if you must know.

Hence the 3,2,1 countdown

But please don't stop on my account, it's really entertaining and I KNOW I'm not the only one to notice the trend.

R...there you go again. Your tank is empty so you resort to attacking me. Go for it if that's what makes you happy.

The simple and obvious truth in this tread is that you took someone's comments about voting for a child molester and made a comical remark about it. Had you a shred of decency in you that comment would have NEVER happened. Insult me...attack me as you always do but the truth is both clear and simple. It is what it is.

Hey Floyd, maybe R is just Tommy in disguise, using a false identity to drum up support for himself. I've been told by several folks he use to do that on another blog. Make a bold statement then create a couple alternative Ids and log back in and essentially praise himself.

Yes "Pink" Floyd here I go again…

So let’s get the focus off "YOU" and back on the candidates at hand shall we?
And I absolutely DARE you to call Buzz Brockway and or Charlie a HATER sir…

Apparently even the ethical can get “off course’ around here. A perspective about our NEW ethics legislation another crown jewel in the CURRENT campaign.
http://www.peachpundit.com/2012/08/08/gwinnett-county-you-can-indict-us-but-you-cant-file-an-ethics-complaint-against-us/#comments

Gwinnett County: You Can Indict Us, But You Can’t File An Ethics Complaint Against Us August 8, 2012 20:22 pm Charlie

The County that keeps giving us Don Balfour and has a roughly 50-50 chance of any elected commissioner getting indicted decided it needed to strengthen its ethics policies. (You think?)

Taking a page from the state legislature’s playbook, they decided they would introduce new rules to increase transparency. And then they exempted themselves from being charged with ethics complaints. Did I mention greater transparency? Because I’m sure that’s the part they wanted you to notice.

From WSB-TV:
Gwinnett Co. policy prevents ethics complaints against incumbents Channel 2 Action News has discovered a loophole in the Gwinnett County ethics policy that some believe protects county officials seeking re-election.

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Gwinnett commissioners approved the ethics policy last year to improve transparency, especially in relation to any business dealings that could financially benefit elected officials.

But, they added a clause that puts ethics complaints leveled at incumbents on hold for six months.
Yes, it is true that ethics complaints can be filed against incumbents purely as a campaign tactic, something that Commissioner Beaudreau claims in the above story. And the people I trust in Gwinnett still say he’s one of the good guys. Yet with the deck generally stacked in favor of incumbents, insulating and exempting yourself from any complaint is an abuse of power.

In a county with the current record of ethics and legal violations among incumbents, putting this policy in place is, in fact, a victory for transparency.

It should be very transparent by now that the system is rigged in favor of incumbents, with voters finding it more and more difficult to be able to hold them accountable.
By the way, all of you fine people in Gwinnett that keep pointing to MARTA and Hartsfield Jackson Airport as bastions of corruption: Why do you strain so hard to see the City of Atlanta’s skyline when you have a plank of corruption lodged squarely in your own eyes?

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Buzz Brockway August 9, 2012 at 8:25 am

Not much of what Joe Newton says can ever be substantiated.

The BoC needs to close this loophole ASAP. Politically motivated ethics complaints are bad but special rules for incumbents is not the answer.

@ Tim
Well I could be” Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds” or..
“The Fool on the Hill” with eyes in his head that sees the world spinning around too...

Hog Mountain incorporate NOW!!
Give yourself your own trash tax breaks instead of waiting for the BoC to do it TO you… er... For you!

R...I haven't decided how I feel about the six month thing. It has it's good and not so good points. There should be protection from people like Joe Newton and his ilk and the 6 month thing does do that but I also don't care for the appearance of giving an unequal shelter to an incumbant. Because an incumbant is way way way more likely to get attacked with stuff like Joe did than a challenger the law kinda evens the playing field but it can give the appearance of doing otherwise. I understand both perspectives. I'm not exactly sure how to do both either...perhaps a shorter duration...maybe 3 months? Not sure.

With regard to Buzz Brockway the day he was first elected to public office was going to be a day full of sunshine even if the weather didn't cooperate. Buzz Brockway is a top drawer guy...a class act's class act.

@ “Pink” Floyd Well at least you acknowledge the Buzz… kinda

And it would appear that out of 159 counties STATEWIDE, only Gwinnett incumbents need this protection in this election. Even though this feared, accused naysayer Joe Newton operates elsewhere?

OR is this an example of yet ANOTHER program "jewel" that should go STATEWIDE, just like our NEW Trash Plan?

Mike B When you ABSOLUTELY have to have MAJOR government policies that “overreach” overnight… whether citizens want them or NOT.

And as a tribute to "Pink" Floyd - You can’t be a REAL hateR, without the “R”

I AM…. INSUBORDINATE!
All and all… it’s just another …. Brick in the WALL.

No bricks required. My wall of truth and facts is plenty high enough as it is. You've tried to scale it numerous times without success.

R...saying all the other counties haven't done this yet is not an impressive defense. People like Joe Newton don't operate where there are no people to show of too...that eliminates 65% of the counties off the bat. In addition, the policy hasn't been out that long at all...and someone has to be first by nature. That doesn't concern me.

cause you know if ti is on the internet it must be true, especially if it is just pieces of a longer conversationf and it supports your position.

Well Tim...is that not Beaudreau in the video? Surely your not suggesting that that is a Mike Beaudreau imposter? As for pieces of a longer conversation....this is a 4 min video.

I am sure that you are not suggesting that because its a shorter piece of a longer video that our elected officials should speak to a constituent like Mike does in this ....right?

Is this how you've spoken to people that elected you in the past?

If so, I can see why you are trolling now on the patch....

Listen to Mike..."how do you know that you are going to be in the flight path"...

Anyone who is in a 5 mile radius of the airport would be affected. Everyone knows that, but Mike plays dumb. We can hear loud planes on approach to Hartsfield...nice response Mike.

Mike...:well you knew you were in the flight path when you bought your house...thats not my fault...." well if that is not a compasionate response...I don't know what is...

The fact is...when everyone bought into the area...they knew that there were small planes. The gentleman KNEW THAT....he didn't KNOW that 737's quite possibly could come. Kinda like....if you buy a home, you never know that one day a Sugarloaf ext would displace you, or you pick a trash hauler only to find one day the government picks one for you, or that you pay taxes for services to find that government picks a baseball stadium for you.

Jerkish if you ask me.....

Ick, got that "deja vu all over again" feeling while watching that video. I've been on the receiving end of one of Beaudreau's eye-rolling/"you're crazy" looks. Beaudreau doesn't even feign concern for this resident's issues. Instead, it's "how do you know your property values will go down?" Please!!! How about the boatload of studies, readily available on the Internet, showing the relationship between airport noise and lowered property values? How about just plain common sense?? Instead of listening and acknowledging the gentleman's concerns, he argues and deflects. My husband and I can't wait to vote against him again on August 21st!

Jim...thanks for bring even more attention to Commissioner Beaudreau keeping his promises. Where were those video snipets taken? At one of the meetings with Mike where Commissioner Beaudreau sacrifices his personal time to meet with D3 residents at different locations in the district in non-office hours. Mike Beaudreau caught again keeping his promises. Thanks Jim.

I do agree...be an informed voter. Go to MikeBeaudreau.com and check out the incredibly long list of things Commissioner Beaudreau has done in the district. Compare that to anyone else in or out of this race. Be an informed voter. Commissioner Beaudreau has lead with personal integrity, community service and conservatism for 8 years. Why risk anyone else?

Well Floyd while we're at it what about today's revelation that the ethics policy for which you give Mike so much credit contains a special protection for incumbents running for re-election. Any ethics complaints during a campaign are placed on hold for six months. http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/gwinnett-co-policy-prevents-ethics-complaints-agai/nQDmy/

How nice that Mike voted himself that special benefit, but did not allow challengers, such has Mike Korom, whom you critized so severly, the same benefit.

And of course there are still the allegations at the website http://www.mikethesleaze.com/ which have yet to be addressed. Of course before you try to label me a hater again I just want to stress my motivation is just educate citizens so they can make an informed decision.

What does it profit a voter if they vote for a candidate that promises monthly meetings and then ACTUALLY holds them ….

When many attendees walk away feeling they were NO more “listened to” (defined as ACTIVE real listening) than if they had spoke at a monthly Commission meeting, where the speaking goes just “one way” without ACTUAL interaction?.

One doesn’t have to have agreement with their personal position to walk away believing they were actually heard and their input given some serious consideration, but even the dimmest resident KNOWS when he or she was written off during the exchange, sadly so do members of the audience.
So here was a candidate’s unique feature that somehow morphed horribly in a number of residents eyes as the Bannister administration went on and continued right up to the airport vote. The following should be taken in the spirit of constructive feedback. After 8 years, a communication style has been set that could evolve to the betterment of both the district and the candidate’s expanded political future, it’s just a matter of do the majority of voters believe it will be?

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And yes - I have given a LOT of slack when residents have shown up to these meetings and quite frankly jumped on this man for items NOT directly related to him or just poorly informed, upset residents.

If you sign up as a candidate and are elected, you do so as a public servant and that includes dealing with ALL kinds, both above and BELOW your station in life.

You won’t always get to drive the shots as you might in your private sector career.

Jim...one of the ethics miscues you mentioned about a competitor of Mike happened in November I believe and are well outside of the 6 month window. In addition, my pointing out the ethics violations of a particular candidate are after his participation in the election is over and hence make no difference in the election. I thought even you knew the primary was over. Finallly, my reference to said violations was about the incombant as much as it was having the head of a group advocating for RESPONSIBLE government actually endorsing someone who had one violation at the time and failing to pull than endorsement when violations #2 and #3 appeared.

You'll have to do better Jim...much better.

Jim..I also take issue with your claim that you only want to educate voters. If that were the case then you would also be directing people to mike's site where voters could learn how greatly he has served them during his first two terms. You'd also be directing voters to the state ethics site where they could search for ethics violations he has committed (and finding absolutely none). Finally, you'd have the guts to admit to the voting population that Commissioner Beaudreau took the time to get informed about the airport issue and make a decision that was reasonable and clearly in the best interests of D3 and Gwinnett County. I'm waiting Jim for you to do as you said you were doing.

Finally, Mike has no obligation to respond to that trash on that fantasy site. I'm guessing here that you forgot that part about innocent until proven guilty. Apparently you don't apply that time honored principal to Commissioner Beaudreau. Sounds like a hater to me.

No Floyd I'm not going to give Mike credit for "getting informed". For two years citizens tried to enlighten him about the non-viablity of expanding Briscoe., using many of the very same documents as the consultants. Mike dismissed the validity of these reports because as a "political scientist from Clemson" he knew better. The county's consultants advised against proceeding. What did Mike do? He voted to move forward to the RFP process. Only when Lassiter resigned did Mike vote against expansion, when the really that a 2-2 tie was a loss did he vote against expansion. An intelligent, informed, and intouch commissioner could have drawn this conclusion in 2009 and saved the county $100s of thousands in consulting fee and focused on important county business, instead of chasing some boondoogle. So who is going to pay to settle Propeller's lawsuit should they pursue one against Gwinnett as Brett Smith threatened? What grounds does Propeller have to sue? Because the commissioners signalled through their actions that they were interested in Propeller's proposal. This is what happens when you have poor leadership.

Jim...I really didn't expect you to give Commissioner Beaudreau credit for making an informed decision. And of course since you know Commissioner Beaudreau's mind better than Commissioner Beaudreau does you know that he made the decision only for political expediency.

Propeller has no basis to sue. They would lose huge in court. Bring it on. They are just crying in the wind.

The odds of a successful suit being brought up over the airport "result" was markedly reduced due to Chairwoman Nash using Gwinnett Procurement policies in place from the start.

This is in STARK contrast to the trash fiasco where the 5 commissioners decided to basically ignore Gwinnett County Procurement policy right from the get go back in 2006.

THAT decision left us all holding the bag for 10 years of artificially higher rates - after signing a consent order that offered unusual protections / consideration to the signers.

We keep getting told that we CAN'T do anything about it, BUT that is coming from some who DIRECTLY personally benefits while this consent decree is in place, so its taken with a grain of salt because of the CLEAR conflict of interest that consent agreement contains.

So if a elected official promises publicly during BoC business sessions no less, that the hauler selection within regions would be based on public competitive bidding processes and yet in 2010 the Gwinnett Lawyers tell the Judge "for the record" that competitive bidding is NOT required at all because trash is a "core" government service, have we actually received "ethical" treatment or is it just an oversight?

When the 2009 Grand Jury findings list that ALL sitting commissioners ran county business poorly and didn't bother to prepare, ignored departmental inputs or staff recommendations was this ethical, an oversight or the beginning of a trend?

Have we seen enough changes since 2009 or are county staff still being treated shabbily as late as 2011, is this "ethical", an oversight or a sheer example of an inability to take and act on constructive feedback?
View the BoC meeting video dated 8/23/11 at the GWINNETT COUNTY site

http://www.gwinnettcounty.com/portal/gwinnett/Departments/CountyAdministrator/Communications/TVGwinnett/VideoOnDemand/CommissionMeetingVideos

See this segment listed below
2011-0761
Approval to clarify the actions previously approved bt yhe BOC on May 3, 2011, and May 17, 2011, related to the proposed privatization of Brisco Field.
Time: 01:07:57 - 02:02:00

http://view.liveindexer.com/ViewIndexSessionSLMQ.aspx?indexPointSKU=ppQ6S2Egz8gRyq60JUrqqA%3d%3d

This will show you why I'm so PROUDLY..... INSUBORDINATE!

Timothy you know the answers to the questions you just asked. The man crush you have for Tommy is really funny. Like I have told you numerous times it's clear why John Heard beat you. Your a Beaudreau puppet. The rant you made about storm water run-off on the patch a while ago clearly showed that you have not a clue about what your talking about. Just so you know all the storm water run off in Dacula doesnt drain back into Lanier............ Also with out a doubt you have got to be the biggest sore loser I have ever seen. Your posts clearly show your arrogance and insecurity...LOL Floyd post with respect for both sides and even enjoys the banter. Floyd doesnt seem to let his emotions take over his post, but Floyd didnt get beat by John Heard either! Stay trolling my friend!

J. I asked the questions because I do not know the answers. Tommy has never explained his report. His speaches are nothing but sound bites, with no substance.

I also notice he hasn't answered @Jimmy Orr's question either.

Silly man.

It's all good ONLY if YOU get the senior trash discount for the small subset PAID for by ALL the OTHER fee payers / taxpayers...
(In an election year no less)

The county is makin' so much bacon it can give some away without even reducing its OWN cut...

I'll save "Pink" Floyd the trouble here
Its Conservative!! (progressive) Its Conservative!! (progressive)

Hog Mountain Incorporate!
Free yourself now from the unjust tyranny

@MK Back off buddy I apparently own that moniker thingy

I AM ...INSOBORDINATE!

I was so hate filled i forgot to also include Floyds question as one i would like to hear a reply also .

Apparently, according to some circles, Jimmy's question came in too late so it won't be addressed...

Me? I just want to get it on record that we WONT build another new stadium during the next 4 years. But its too late for that new question to get a response either I suppose.

This go around I'd like to give it to Cobb with a great BIG bow....

Don't worry if it happens they will be small corporate size jets. I checked their website it costs $1700 to fly to Charlotte, $2200 to fly to Charleston. At those prices it will be a tough sale. I suspect with prices like that they will go bankrupt before anything happens.

No kidding Jim...I agree.

Lets see here Timothy. From 2005 - 2009 Tommy served as the district 3 water and sewage authority represenitive. The last year being appointed as secretary. So it looks like he was appointed 5 years straight. So here we have 5 years covered. Now, with man crush you have lets see how I did. Tommy Hunter for commissioner.

J. Morley, nope wrong! It doesn't seem like y'all haven't vetted your candidate very well.

Another Bromance blooms …

Just calling it the way I see it "R", just the facts, just the facts. Care to guess what Tommy's current

Ok but just because I've got work to do and can't wait for more gusses... Tom is and has been ever since he worked for the county a Real estate Developer and real Estate Broker. Oh and he also worked for a large contractor that does a tone of business for the county, Gary's Grading. It appears he left Gary's a couple of months after he assumed his duties of a Planning commissioner, a good thing I think. But wouldn't that be great for a large contractor to have a former empolyee as a county commissioner. Think of Tommy as a kinder and gentler Kevin Kenerly. From Tommy's Linked-In Profile.

Gwinnett County Planning Commission
January 2011 – Present (1 year 8 months) [I believe he resigned this position at the request of Commissioner Heard]
District 4 Representative - Gwinnett County Planning Commission

Project Manager
Gary's Grading & Pipeline Co.
August 2009 – May 2011 (1 year 10 months)
Project manager over various state and county DOT projects and water and sewer projects for county and city governments. Of interest to folks in Gwinnett and Hall Counties I am managing the widening project of SR 20 from Grayson to Loganville, the Hurricane Shoals at Old Peachtree Intersection Improvement, Hope Hollow Road Realignment, and Thurman Tanner Parkway extension.

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Development Manager
Landmark Improvement, LLC
May 2004 – August 2009 (5 years 4 months)
Served as Development Manager identifying and purchasing property for residential development, managing the design and construction phases, and overseeing the sale of the finished project.

Another piece I found from a hunting web site he claims to be an Associate Broker (i.e. Real Estate) for 8 years. I remembered this piece from 2 years age so it should be more like the last 10 years which would include several years while working for the county. You can find Tommy listed on the Eagle Realty web site @ http://www.eaglerealtyservices.net/Our_Professionals/page_1944066.html

So Tim , both are in the pocket for Gary Grading . How wonderful !

So M.K. I suspect for you its back to the Devil ya know vs the Devil you don't.

Uh oh, Timothy, seems there is a problem with your revelation. You see you and Floyd get on here and talk all about Bootro's integrity and honesty but you missed one little thing. You say Mike has NEVER taken money from developers yet you claim that Tommy is, and always has been since he left the county, a developer. Looking at Mike's disclosures you will find Tommy gave Mike money in both February 2006 and February 2008--long AFTER Tommy left Gwinnett County. So, one of three things has occurred here. Either one, YOU are a liar; two, MIKE is a liar; or three, Mike intentionally and knowingly falsified his Campaign Disclosures. Which is it? For the record, I've looked at Mike's disclosures and he has taken money from PLENTY of developers--or at least developers by your definition. And a question for you, is being in real estate a crime or an illegal profession? I see that is how you make your living. Wonder how some of those developers and builders you work with would appreciate your description of, and insinations about, them?

Nope I never said Mike never took developer money, he did and he has answered the charge that he took developers money at the Stars and Stripes debate. I accept his answer.

By Tommy’s admission he was a developer, for several years with his own company and he worked for Garry’s grading. He also holds a real estate license as well as a broker’s license. Working in Real estate while on the county payroll is what got him in trouble while at Gwinnett County.

No, being in Real; Estate it is not a crime. It is a noble profession, done right.. I work in Residential Real estate and never hid the fact. That is transparency. Hiding the fact is not. I disclosed & Tommy did not.

Don’t believe I made any insinuations about developers and builders, just Tommy. Again my problem is that he is not forth coming with information about his career.

What I find disturbing is that he has never disclosed his various other positions. All he talks about is being an engineer and an expert in transportation. So everyone just assumes that is his job. It just makes me wonder why not disclose. All of you Tommy supporters are all so ticked off about a stupid trash plan that y’all will vote for anybody without asking questions. No one properly vetted Obama and look at the mess that got us into. I suspect if Jerry of Korumn had gotten into the runoff you would be just as vehemently supporting that person as well. Vote for him if you will but find out who he is; don’t just blindly vote for him

From Floyd, speaking from his knowledge of the Beaudreau campaign on Monday, August 6, 2012 on the article "Beaudreau headed for Runoff....": "*Mike has yet to take a single financial contribution from a developer." So I guess we are down to two choices, Mike is a liar, or he falsified his disclosures.

J would have replied earlier but couldn't find your post and I am at work, got to serve the customers. Mike neither falsafied nor lied about developer donations. At the last meeting Jerry O raised questions about taking contributions from a company that makes culvert pipe. Jerry claimed they were developers, Mike said no they were maufactures. The devil is in the details.
As to Tommy well it depends on what he told Mike his occupation was. I don't have time to at the present to search through the disclosures to see what was put down as Tommy's occupation. So i'll leave that ffor another day. Oh there really is no place on the disclosure forms to indicate one is a developer or not :-)

Timothy, what you meant to say is it took you a day to get with Mike to find out how to respond. In the meantime I talked to Tommy as well. And, as you should well know, every disclosure asks for the OCCUPATION and EMPLOYER of individual contributors. So if one is a developer, then that's where it goes. Tommy was Mike's Water and Sewerage Authority representative at the time. Mike knew darn well what Tommy did (does). I wonder what that MHC DEVELOPMENT that gave Mike TWO THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS in February 2008 does. Oh, I bet they sell used cars. The devil is in the details, alright, and I'll wager that any straight-thinking, intelligent Gwinnett resident would know EXACTLY who the devil is. So, if the owner of XYZ Development and Home Builder says it is a plumbing business then that's what it is as far as Mike is concerned and he can take their money??? That sounds like honesty and integrity. It is the candidate's responsibility to know what the person giving the gift does and who they work for, it is the candidate's CHOICE to choose not to be honest with his constituents.

J...You're barking at something you think is a thang but isn't. You're fooling yourself and committing a serious political error. August 22nd, in sincerity, I will tell you what it is.

By the way J...you're making yourself look like a hysterical idiot. The quote you attribute to my knowledge of the campaign posted on August 6th was in fact a direct quote from Mike's website. You are starting to sound a bit on the desperate side.

@ Floyd, so you have a DIRECT quote from Mike's website claiming he NEVER took developer money; then you have his lap-dog Tim Sullivan saying he did but has answered the charge; then we have you in many other places talking about how honest and full of integrity Mike is (promises made, promises kept); then we have obvious instances on his disclosures where he failed to record peoples' correct occupations (because he knows putting "developer" on a disclosure would make him a liar); AND then you refer to me as a hysterical idiot? I always attributed that kind of reasoning to democrats, but apparently it applies to incumbents, hell-bent on staying in power, in general.

J...I don't speak for Tim....Tim does. I speak for me and what I know.

Thank you, btw, for giving me the chance to respond to you and yet again talk about Commissioner Beaudreau's integrity. You quoted me correctly...it is "Promises Made...Promises Kept". Just like Jim Regan and his attempt to smear Commissioner Beaudreau in those tiny video snips doesn't understand that the very existence of the chance to do the video proves that Commissioner Beaudreau keeps his promises. You also fail to understand that your desperate attempts to show that Commissioner Beaudreau took a contribution from a friend of a friend of a friend of a neighbor of a postman who saw someone say they were a developer on TV remind everyone that the only reason you are doing so is because of a promise made that has been kept. It doesn't matter to you that your guy has gulped down developer contributions. It, thus, comes down to being obvious that it's not developer contributions but the keeping of one's word that is the object behind the curtain for you. I'm good with that...like you CORRECTLY QUOTED me....Promises Made...Promises Kept.

Whoa there Floyd! To start with, 15 minutes of raw unedited video filmed and posted by the media does not qualify as a snipet. I know it's hard to defend the words and immature behavior of Beaudreau, so why don't you just concede he failed to meet the expectations of an elected official and we can leave it at that.

These three videos are not the most damning, there is one more that is not posted on YouTube, perhaps tomorrow I will post it. Once again I didn't film it but it was a little too inflammatory. I'll sleep on it tonight.

I would also like to point out at subsequent meetings Mike would only meet with individuals and would not address the group of 20 persons attending his Saturday meetings that wanted to discuss Briscoe expansion. Apparently he didn't want to many witnesses nor have to deal with people questioning his position.

Once again I am not smearing Beaudreau I am just providing information which people have a right to know about their commissioner. Unfortunately most voters have not had the exposure nor attended commission meetings. I have to admit at every meeting I've attended someone has always commented they can not believe the immaturity nor disrespect for citizens' opinions.

It seems to me an elected official has a responsiblity to set aside their personal opinion to represent the opinion of the electorate. If that were the case with Beaudreau we would not be having this discussion.

Thank you Jim for yet another opportunity to talk about Commissioner Beaudreau keeping his promises. Explain to me exactly how many politicians (I actually refer to Commissioner Beaudreau as a public servant) intentionally give up portions of their weekends to meet with the people they serve. Sitting here now, frankly, I cannot think of any. That was a promised from Mike Beaudreau when he was Candidate Beaudreau in 2004. We put it on our big signs (those enormous 4x8 footers) for everyone to see. It wasn't an accident....it was a Promise Made. Making a promise meant something to him...then and now. Is it an accident that he's done so month after month after month (approaching 90 months now btw)? Absolutely not. Remember that he has a daughter less than a year old now so his weekend time comes at an even greater expense. But it was a Promise Made. Again...you haven't been able to criticize him for keeping that promise have you? Answer...NO. Thank you for reminding everyone here that with Commissioner Beaudreau it's...Promise Made...Promise Kept.

Lets also remind the readers here that it is Jim Regan who got the EXACT decision regarding Briscoe that you wanted but because he didn't follow your self made primrose path you give him no credit for making the decision...the exact decision...that you wanted. Criticizing Commissioner Beaudreau because he gave you what you wanted can only be described as Circle Logic.

Promise Made....Promise Kept. Commissioner Mike Beaudreau

Wrong :-)

Greg let me give you the skiny here. Timothy knows exactly what Tommy does or has done in the past. Here's how, back in 2010 Timothy spent a few hours in Tommy's home beging for his support. Timothy tried but never convinsed Tommy that he wasnt Bootdro's lap dog. As you can tell not only is Timothy Bootdro's lap dog he has became one of his puppet's. He didnt care about Tommy's career then but he does now. With every fiber of his being he wants Tommy to lose this race. Tommy may do just that, but then again he may not. Timothy isnt as informed as he might think. Being arrogant is part of that camps idenity. Tommy Hunter is always in the back of his mind, and Boodro used Timothy then as he is nows.

J, it’s Just Tim, don't think I've ever gone by Timothy. Anyway to clarify your story: yes I met with Tommy to ask for his support in my runoff election with John Heard. Tommy met with John before he met with me. He called me and said can ya come over now, and I went. As much as I'd love to disclose the conversation I promised to keep it confidential and will keep my word. I did find it an interesting evening. I think he kept me there well past midnight. I'm not sure how many hours he spent with John but I tried to leave several times, he just kept talking. In the end he supported John Heard, not sure why as he was running against John as well. His position as Planning commissioner may have had something to do with it, and maybe not. It could be he just doesn’t like Mike and knew Mike helped me with door knocking. So if Tommy supported John because I had Mike’s help then that is just petty and immature. Not a good reason.

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I support Mike and have gotten his support in zoning issues in my area for many years, for which I’m grateful. I’ve been active in the community since growth came to my part of Hamilton Mill rd. I started going to zoning meetings before Mike was elected. We were in district 1 at the time and Marcia Newton was my commissioner. We got redistricted and ended up in district 4 with Kevin Kenerly as our Commissioner. Over the years I went and mostly spoke against what I saw as spot zoning, we won a few and lost a few. After Mike got elected we noticed his planning commissioners were more supportive of the average homeowner than my planning commissioners were, until we got Paula and Floy. Many times the D3 planning commissioners were the deciding votes in favor or our position. I appreciated that support. When going to BOC meetings I also found Mike more sympathetic of our stand then Kevin was. Mike was quite often the one that pushed for decisions that I and our little are homeowner coalition wanted. So ya I support Mike. He is genuine and a real person, he stands up for the little man. So no big secret here, no one is behind the curtain.

Not exactly Tim , I dispise arrogance toward any taxpayer and i prefer a person that will listen to the agreements and disagreements and humble thy self acknowledging that they are serving all instead of being a know it all .

Keep guessing Greg, keep guessing. Maybe try googling your guy first.

Still waiting Timothy. Which is it? Mike is a liar, or he falsified his disclosures. I'll be at the debate and I'm really looking forward to it. I didnt get to make the last one.

No ... what it really just depends on "is" what "is" the definition of a developer ...

We've ALL been here before, we're just missin the "Devil in the Blue Dress" is all. (Smiles)