Throwing darts or throwing facts? Hmmmm...I think it's option B.

Look...the simple truth here is that you didn't know. You were just being angry again and were trying to throw something at Commissioner Beaudreau just the same way you used a TSPLOST question to try to bring up Hunter's letter of reprimand. Because I was looking at you and Commissioner Beaudreau was in the direct view I happened to see the look on his face when you said that. He had already politely pointed out the OBVIOUS crater in your "PLAN" for Gwinnett (L2LC) by showing you had no way to pay for it and were basically promoting deficit spending. He was being kind in not pointing out your obvious lack of understanding the GCPS budget and who controls it.

I'm trying to be gentle here but in your last paragraph you make the same mistake yet again. You were at a debate for District 3 Commissioner Candidates...I thought you knew. We were talking about the issues that a Commissioner has control over...and here you are yet again trying to make points by trying to tie Commissioner Beaudreau to GCPS issues. FAIL! Dude....magawd...STOP.

You're right...I am a solid Beaudreau supporter. He's earned it.

Of course, he could have “Paid for it” in the same way that Gwinnett County government used in the mental processes that “Paid” for the "trash discount" offered to a REALLY small group of seniors during an election year (Surprise) – by INCREASING taxes on others in the county, so the county's revenue wouldn't drop one thin dime by the "discount"…

BUT that’s right, Mike Korom is NOT the incumbent, so he can’t make that offer at this point.

...and more mud slinging from the person who is too afraid to post under a real name and too afraid to let people know if he is a D3 resident.

The simple truth here is that Korom got caught in that his "plan" didn't have a way to pay for itself. In addition, another glaring failure of his "plan" is that apparently if you don't live near 316 you don't matter. Snellville, Loganville, Grayson and South Lawrenceville voters beware!!

That's not mud slinging "Pink" Floyd, it may very well be something that you would rather not have linked to a conservative candidate you support, but that's not mud.

Is the trash "discount" to a very SMALL subset of seniors PAID FOR by increasing "fees" on others within Gwinnett? The answer is YES, that is a fact.

Was it done just prior to an election YES, that is a fact. They just don't get ANY colder is all.

@MK I appreciate you posting your thoughts on the Patch. Reading the post above does validate my point that you don't know the issues. SPLOST are for building infrastructure. By law they can not be used for operating expenses. So Mr. Saxton may be upset that the libraries operating budget is getting cut it has nothing to do with the building at RHP. Operating expenses come from the general fund. Which is shrinking. So my question to you would be how would you handle Mr. Saxton's problem? I would like you to be specific. We need to know where you would find the money. Other programs may have to be cut or revenues increased. We need hard examples.

I'll give you credit for trying but it's not working. More mudslinging from you and it's not even good mud.

So it takes courage to post on the patch? Nope...got that one wrong...the other three recognize that all you are accomplishing here for yourself is letting me point out to others what's wrong with what you are saying and giving me a great opportunity to point out why people should vote for Commissioner Beaudreau.

"Pink" Floyd, you're actually proving his point here but please keep going...

R...you are in a tiny minority in that thinking and I will continue to support Commissioner Beaudreau...like I said...he's earned it many times over.

Yes your support is VERY evident and also almost earns the Bob Dole award of years gone by...

At least George Soros doesn't have my cell on speed dial.

Keep carpet bombing, you'll the truth somewhere (Smiles)

Have a GPS lock on it already. But thanks for the concern. :-)

I gotta give you your "props" on posting here personally, Mike. I find it somewhat telling when most officials and potential officials try to "play it safe" and avoid the unpredictable and scary "people you're actually gonna serve." My hat is off to you for stepping out on the limb and actually "talking to people". Kudos to ya.

I think it's somewhat telling that the folks tossing the pebbles at you are picking on rather namby-pamby things that are mostly a simply part of the learning process. Some things, you simply have to wait until in office to sort out. At long as you remain open and transparent, which you have demonstrated a tendency for, just by your showing up here, the rest should take care of itself.

I hope you favor keeping Gwinnett government out of our back yards. If I want to raise an 8 pound bird, that is none of Gwinnett Governments business.

@Ron...Ha Ha Ha...you sound like Nancy Pelosi and "we have to vote for the bill before we know what's in it"

Look...there are somethings that have to be learned after getting in office but not knowing about the control of the GCPS, not understanding the requirements of how SPLOST funds can be spent (that was yesterday's gem here on the patch), a "plan" for gwinnett that basically ignores the south half of the county and wasn't paid for....no...those are things we don't need a learning curve for.

Quoting Floyd:"@Ron...Ha Ha Ha...you sound like Nancy Pelosi and "we have to vote for the bill before we know what's in it. Look...there are somethings that have to be learned after getting in office but not knowing about the control of the GCPS, not understanding the requirements of how SPLOST funds can be spent (that was yesterday's gem here on the patch), a "plan" for gwinnett that basically ignores the south half of the county and wasn't paid for....no...those are things we don't need a learning curve for."

Nancy Pelosi? Eh . . .not even close, Floyd. Weak, dude. Anyway: For starters Floyd, your assertion that one has to memorize the fairly complex intricacies of what can and can't be done with the SPLOST Money, is disingenuous, or more accurately, rather "Sleazy". Heck, the officials Georgia SPLOST Handbook for public officials is 99 pages long, and you don't even take into account the Georgia Code itself, various legal opinions on the myriad issues relative to SPLOST funding, and use, etc.

Interesting, that if someone googles YOUR NAME along with Mr. Beaudreaus name . . . it becomes pretty clear you're in cahoots with him, joined at the hip, pretty much. And considering how misdirective, obtuse, and downright deceptive you're being . . .well . . .you're pretty much Mr. Beaudreaus lackey. And you're simply not honest. What does that say about Mr. Beaudreau? A lot. Now take a deep breath, come up with another pointless, generic, insult.

@Ron...cool...glad you did the 15 seconds of research...I knew you could do it.

...but...you are completely wrong. You see...SPLOST was something that was voted on by the electorate. You know about it then...WAY before you ever declare for an office. Why he didn't know that is something I'm not going to speculate on but it fits in with a pattern we're seeing.

Pelosi? Yep. You said there were things he'd have to sort out once in office. Voting for someone before we'd know what he'd do. That's Pelosi...you said it pal...don't crawfish.

Funny that you claim I'm not honest while I post with my real name and have been completely honest about my previous relationship. But just like Pelosi you apparently never let truth get in the way of things do you.

How about you being honest. Your profile on the Patch is from Smyrna-Vinings. Do you actually LIVE in gwinnett? Be honest.

FLOYD:Ron cool glad you did the 15 seconds of research,I knew you could do it.
RON: Ouch Floyd. Was that supposed to hurt? Ya missed the mark again, yawn.
FLOYD: but...you are completely wrong. You see...SPLOST was something that was voted on by the electorate.
RON: I knew that Floyd, but thanks for the redundancy.
FLOYD: You know about it then...WAY before you ever declare for an office.
RON: Floyd, you're loosing focus again, bud.
FLOYD:Why he didn't know that is something I'm not going to speculate on . . . .
RON: Of course you won't Floyd, of course you won't . . .lol.
FLOYD: but it fits in with a pattern we're seeing.
RON: Very obtuse Floyd. I think it's a pattern you are seeing . . .and it might involve the voices in your head.
FLOYD: Pelosi? Yep. You said there were things he'd have to sort out once in office.
RON: Yes. Because that is reality. Since much of the issue is discussed in executive session, per Mr. Beaudreau's own statements, Korom wouldn't be privy to pertinent data necessary to make detailed analysis. Duh.

FLOYD: Voting for someone before we'd know what he'd do.
RON: Wrong again Floyd. He's said what he'd do, in general terms, which is actually quite smart, considering he isn't privy to the discussions held in Executive session. Try harder, Floyd. Your semantic shell games are pretty clumsy, by the way.
FLOYD: That's Pelosi...you said it pal...don't crawfish.
RON: I'm not, heheh. that is clearly your game Mr. Clippy. :^)

Funny that you claim I'm not honest while I post with my real name and have been completely honest about my previous relationship. But just like Pelosi you apparently never let truth get in the way of things do you.

How about you being honest. Your profile on the Patch is from Smyrna-Vinings. Do you actually LIVE in gwinnett? Be honest.

@MK or any of you rep's I am still waiting to hear how you would handle the issue of the libraries being under funded or how we are misusing the SPLOST funds.

@ray I am sympathetic to your point about gov accountability. I wonder though how much of our disappointment is really with the gov employees or politicians. Sometimes I think we give politicians too much credit for what they can actually do. Remember the county's day to day operations are run by non elected people. You can remove the entire BOC and we would still have a county staff that may be totally inept making a new BOC pretty much useless.

It's amazing that most folks complain about "politics as usual" . . . yet being new is frowned upon in the voting booths, Ray. One thing is also certain, that Mike is NOT a fan of liberty, and that bothers me immensely. Mike essentially thinks he knows what is best for his constituents without regard to what we actually think. So did "Carl Marx", who I heard liked elephants too.

Good one J...laughed at that one.

Your right..commissioner Beaudreau apparently thinks he can close the deficit with "
stealing" cell tower business. 1 down and a tad under 1600 more towers more of revenue and we be done with the deficit.

It’s interesting / telling you would make such light of a fellow resident's plight with the county.

So if there were no "revenues to be had" WHY was it done?
Just because it COULD be?

Explain it if you care to, I’m sure many would like to know the reasoning and DON"T want to wait until its resolved in court one day…

R...whoever you are, I made no light of the situation. The amount of revenue from this cell tower, in comparison to the budget is mathematically small. You are trying to make it seem as though Commissioner Beaudreau's focus was on taking business opportunites away from citizens.

I'm showing you, mathematically, that if that's the case...Commissioner Beaudreau has been terrible at that and needs to kick it in gear.

Frankly I'm impressed, in a not so good way, that you continue with your attack when shown to be mathematically foolish and non-factual.

He DID vote to take opportunities from private citizens and has doubled down on his position, as you say that’s the FACTUAL outcome, unless the court intervenes.

If it doesn’t make fiscal sense because the revenue is so small as you state, why haven’t you revealed why it’s a good policy to stand behind this decision so zealously?

You’re here to represent Mike B who has earned your vote, so here’s your soapbox. Please explain this to us all.
If the revenue isn’t worth it - why did it even happen? WHY was it postponed over 20 times?
Do we have county lawyers on retainer that need work?

To me, the mental processes used to get us involved in this project far outweigh the dollar amount involved UNLESS we have yet another precedent setting consent order in our future.

Positions have consequences and at times “collateral” damage and we have seen more than our fair share over the last 4 years.

Its time citizens realize that the county government appears to be focusing more on what’s “good for it” and its needs over the residents’, because the two goals are no longer mutually inclusive.

"Opportunities" in the plural sense? To which do you now refer?

Trash Plan, maybe more

How SOON they forget once it’s declared a "Success" and we "must" move on...

But we would like to REALLY focus on your Cell Tower response as to WHY this is such a good policy… details please

Tell you what...I've answered enough of your questions without you answering my simple question to which you display an abundant amount of reluctance

Are you a resident of District 3?

It's a simple question...

After you answer mine I'll answer yours.

"Pink" Floyd, unless you desire to feed a blog via Google or apply for a job as an author, between routine private corporation IT searches for current employees and FaceBook log-in requests - maybe you're not as smart as you think.

So continue the charge of "Sock Puppet!!" if you must, BUT I know if you had positive rebuttals they'd be right here- its in your nature. So lets get back to the "message" for the other voters shall we?

http://midtown.patch.com/articles/talking-politics-at-work-not-so-free-speech-says-midtown-attorney

Talking Politics at Work: Not So ‘Free Speech’ Says Midtown Attorney

A recent study showed that 35 percent of bosses openly share their political views with employees. Another study by the AFL-CIO concluded that 8 percent of employees believe that it would be illegal for their employers to terminate them for engaging in political expression at work.

“In reality, that 8 percent of employees are wrong, and their bosses may be violating company policy too,” Stewart said in a news release.
So, how can so many employees hold such a wrong opinion about their speech rights?
“The answer is a lack of understanding about the constitutional guarantees of freedom of speech and of the protection of employee speech under the National Labor Relations Act,” she said.

That's what I figured...I didn't think you would stand up and let everyone know you are not a D3 resident. Because when you do you have to self-expose your ultimate motive. Wave whatever you want as your defense but the clear truth here is that you hide behind a semi name and don't even have the common courtesy to let people in D3 know if your are a D3 resident.

That's a big difference between you and I. Regardless of the topic or what someone thinks about whatever...I have ALWAYS been forthright about who I was and my experience with candidate and Commissioner Beaudreau. People here may not agree with me but no one accuses me of hiding behind a fake name and throwing mud. If that's the way you want to conduct yourself live it up...no law against it...but it makes everything you submit drop in credibility. It is what it is.

@Pink Floyd

There a difference between us, you are linked without question to a single candidate and I have pointed out examples of what I believe are processes where Gwinnett Government needs to change. If not for this primary contest, these discussions would NEVER have made the light of day. We NEED to change direction; perhaps the candidates have really seen the voters are concerned. (Or maybe not)

The end desire is that the winner, whoever that is really is; with incorporate some of the best ideas of EVERYONE who has run. I have ZERO desire to be linked directly to anyone but by default I admire the gumption of the “new kid on the block” that realizes taxpayers see money going out at an alarming rate and just want a break and NO more HEADLINES for awhile.

As to education or experience, whoever gets elected takes a mandatory training covering the responsibilities of the commissioner office from the Association County Commissioners of Georgia (ACCG). We apparently NEED refreshers here because after the SDS resolution shipping hundreds of thousands of dollars to the cities, it’s clear that the municipalities listened a little better to the training they got from their own group the Georgia Municipal Association ( GMA) as they won…

So the total claim in question from the audio was 3,500 from 2008.

That’s 2008 folks -YEP it’s REALLY, REALLY a LONG time ago… (in a galaxy far, far away perhaps)

And if you are a stickler, actually the total is 4,500 if you include the 1,000 from 2006.

Since the statements continue to “add on” each year until the elected official exits the office, it shows EVERYTHING collected and EVERYTHING spent. So really in effect the campaign NEVER really CLOSES per the State of GA.
The year end balance on hand as of 12/31/2010 for Mike B was 9K and change…

http://www.gwinnettcounty.com/static/departments/elections/pdf/MICHAEL%20BEAUDREAU_CDDR_12.31.2010.pdf

Here’s where it gets interesting
Kevin Kenerly (Personal) 02/02/ 2008 2,000.00
http://www.gwinnettcounty.com/static/departments/elections/pdf/Michael%20Beaudreau%20-%20CCDR%2003.31.08.pdf

Kevin Kenerly (Personal) 09/26/2008 1,500.00
http://www.gwinnettcounty.com/static/departments/elections/pdf/Michael%20Beaudreau%20-%20CCDR%2009-30-08.pdf

Kevin Kernerly Campaign 2/15/2006 1,000.00
http://www.gwinnettcounty.com/static/departments/elections/pdf/Kevin%20Kenerly%20-%20CCDR%2003-31-06%20BOC%20District%204.pdf

And for those who want to review all the law firms and consultants of all the candidates here is the link

http://www.gwinnettcounty.com/portal/gwinnett/Departments/Elections/

Well congratulations! I was hoping you had the basic skills needed. Understand now why I wouldn't do your homework for you? Pretty simple isn't it.

Disclaimer - this being government the campaign contribution reports are a cumulative thing. Also, the number of reports and the dates they are due depend on if it's an election year so that gets a tad confusing as well. Also, the 2011 and going forward reports are under the state and unfortunately they don't make those available online like this. I don't like that and hope it is changed quickly.

Glad you did your homework....Now if you would only show a tiny bit of courage and let the communty know if you are a D3 resident. Everytime you ignore and don't answer the value and believability of your postings diminishes.

So by listening to the reply Mike B stated it wasn't in the 2012 timeframe and you have admitted to being campaign manager for the 2004 campaign and would have knowledge to that period.

So that places this thing into 2008 election cycle??
That’s really NOT that long ago...
(As much as many of us we wish that to be true)

So maybe the campaign will come on here and clear this up?

R...nice spin...you should take a position with MoveOn.Org.....or perhaps you already have?

Check a calendar pal...this is 2012....sorry...I assumed...I thought you knew. The 2004 and 2008 campaigns are over. Any answer anyone gives can only have a bearing on the 2012 campaign which is why I am self-constraining on answering.

Keep the spin going though...maybe MoveOn.Org will give you a promotion.

Sorry I just don’t vote in a vacuum of the current election cycle.

If you are going to campaign and support a man on “superior experience” you obviously don’t either.

What happened earlier during now CLOSED periods are part of the record.

Nice try with the MoveOn.org thing though, you get points for originality or plagiarism just not sure which at this point. Brian Crawford would find that comment absolutely hysterical.
Besides aren’t they desperately trying to delink Obama from HIS 2008 election cycle “Hope and Change” thingy?

R..sometimes you give me a good belly laugh...this is one of those times.

Why don't you do your own research? I'd do it for you but then you don't learn.

It's not that I can't answer...I am self-constraining. As I am not a part of his campaign in 2012...want to but there is just too much going on for me to be reliable with my volunteer time...I don't speak for the campaign. What I have done since I started here was talk about what I do know about Commissioner Beaudreau and offer thoughtful insight on the current election. I do not claim to speak, even a smidge, for the campaign...hence why I am self constraining.

What I am curious about though is that in the past you have indicated that you were not a D3 resident but now you are talking about voting in respect to the D3 race. Please confirm if you are or not a D3 resident.

So I notice that you completely ignore and fail yet again to respond to a simple question. Are you a resident of D3? Why are you scared to answer?

Furthermore...no I'm not going to do your research for you. If you want to know about campaign contributions look at the REQUIRED campaign contribution reports for crying out loud...If you can't do basic clicking then no I won't babysit you and click the mouse for you. Sheeze.

Don't be scared to respond and answer if you are a D3 resident.

@ Pink Floyd, The homework asignment was posted above for all to see.
It should help make up some minds.

Would an “ethical” guy keep funds when the guy that gave them owes Gwinnett County over 32K in back taxes? Why not just DONATE this total to the county and clear the books with a great headline (of course) because he really would be making a "hard" choice…

"Moving forward with an ABUNDANCE of caution"

You COULDN’T buy the amount of positive publicity this would generate…

R...once again you fail even the most basic of research. You wanted to know the year of the contribution and being that information is so readily available online I refused to do your research for you.

You have got to be one of the laziest persons posting I can remember.

Let me know when you've done the research...if it takes you more than 2 minutes you should be embarassed.

Actually you stated you were unable to respond but wanted to remember?…

Let’s get this straight.. your man is asked point blank about 3,500 from 2008 and he responds that’s from a REALLY REALLY, LONG, LONG, LONG time ago and shifts off into his 2012 total campaign donors …

Come on we all KNOW that he really can say “NO!”, not a bad characteristic in and of itself.
The only way the response “works” as a time frame reference is if Mike B. developed software/firmware and we know that’s NOT the case.

Then you responded “that you couldn’t / wouldn’t post this year data because you’re NOT linked with the campaign”…

To tell you the truth at this point, YOUR kind of “credibility” is something we can ALL do without. So thanks for letting me know I don’t play UP or DOWN to YOUR standards, it actually quite comforting. I’m “sock puppeting forward now...
...

So Tim...you don't respect integrity, community service, keeping promises and making informed decisions? Well...go for it. I do and that's why I will be joining tens of thousands of others and voting for Commissioner Beaudreau.

QUOTING FLOYD: "So Tim...you don't respect integrity, community service, keeping promises and making informed decisions? Well...go for it. I do and that's why I will be joining tens of thousands of others and voting for Commissioner Beaudreau."

Integrity? Really Floyd? You're on here saying all sorts of Sleazy crap, most of which involves primarily generic insults, semantic shell games, and playing cheap political parlor tricks. And you are clearly CLOSELY tied To Mike Beaudreau, on a personal level . . . . . . is your despicable behavior here indicative of the sort of person Mike Beaudreau ties himself to? Yes, you are the sort of person Mike Beaudreau ties himself to . . . .and that is a problem for Gwinnett Citizens.

You aren't doing your friend and cohort any favors, I assure you, heheh. But keep posting. You're demonstrating pretty well exactly WHY "Beaudreau MUST GO"

Thanks!

Ron...Ron...Ron...

You must really be impressed with yourself. You have done nothing and I mean nothing here other than throw mud and insults. I don't suffer people like you for long.

FLOYD:Ron...Ron...Ron... You must really be impressed with yourself.
RON: Not really Floyd. You aren't that great at debate, being impressed with myself for spanking you like a Capuchin monkey wouldn't be sporting. Maybe you should get your puppeteer Mikey to come on and make it sporting.

FLOYD: You have done nothing and I mean nothing here other than throw mud and insults.

RON: Let me translate that last remark of yours to "truth" Floyd: Actually, it's you doing nothing but slinging mud and insults . . .to the point it's downright comical that you would even have the audacity to accuse someone else of that, lol. I played along and ignored it for the first few exchanges with ya, but since you persisted in tossing those lame insults, I just figured to myself: "Hey this Floyd-boy needs a lesson" heheh.

FLOYD: I don't suffer people like you for long.

RON: Translation: Floyd is getting tired of getting his ass handed to him on a plate, and will soon start trying to pretend I don't exist. Sorry Floyd . . .but I do.

Ron...if that's who you really are...(1) Your patch account is with the Smyna-Vinings patch. Will you confirm for the community here that you LIVE in Gwinnett? You have already played dodge ball once already and refused to answer. Be honest.

(2) Your first entry here was 100% name calling. Nothing more. Further postings have been bird cage fodder. You've raised nothing that would promote an exchange of ideas.

(3) You are handing my ass to me? LOL...that's cute. You couldn't beat a rug. It might be your own ass that your hands are on...might wanna check that.

I'm waiting for you to answer if you live in Gwinnett. This requires an honest answer which might be a struggle.....but give it a whirl.

Time to get the peoples voice back in Dist. 3 !

PARANOID FLOYD: Ron...if that's who you really are...
RON: That's who I really am. Ronald McClellan, of the clan Maclellan, if you want to know my ancestry
FLOYD: (1) Your patch account is with the Smyna-Vinings patch.
RON: That might be because that is the first patch article I responded to, or something, that was years ago. I've never been to Smyra Vinings so I suppose you can take that up with the folks running Patches server.
FLOYD: Will you confirm for the community here that you LIVE in Gwinnett?
RON: Floyd, you mean will I confirm it . . .for YOU. The answer is "no." Mainly because I just don't care for you.
FLOYD: You have already played dodge ball once already and refused to answer. Be honest.
RON: You've played dodge ball about 3 dozen times in this thread, preferring to substitute witless, generic, grade school insults, at myself and most others here, in a failed effort to cover the fact you can't support "an actual position." It's pretty sad actually Floyd, and obvious.
FLOYD: (2) Your first entry here was 100% name calling. Nothing more.
RON: Wrong. You are aware that people can actually check, aren't you?

FLOYD: Further postings have been bird cage fodder. You've raised nothing that would promote an exchange of ideas.
RON: Okay not promoting the exchange of ideas . . . . . . read YOUR posts, Floyd.
FLOYD:(3) You are handing my ass to me?
RON: Yes. Quite handily, actually.
FLOYD: LOL...that's cute.
RON: Denial and defiance . . .that's cute Floyd.
FLOYD: You couldn't beat a rug.
RON: I knew a rug. I stepped on a rug. You Sir, are no rug. "Stole that from Lloyd Bentsen, sorry. Seemed appropriate though, heheh.
FLOYD: It might be your own ass that your hands are on...might wanna check that.
RON: That didn't even really make sense, and was kind of a "2" if I were rating insults. You get a gold star for "most improved" with that one though!
FLOYD: I'm waiting for you to answer if you live in Gwinnett.
RON: Have a seat get comfy!
FLOYD: This requires an honest answer which might be a struggle.....but give it a whirl.

RON: Well it doesn't actually require an honest answer . . .you just want an excuse to stop getting your butt handed to you, heheh (everyone sees it Floyd) It would be easy to answer you actually, but it's kinda fun watching you search desperately for any little tidbit you can latch on to to save face. It's kinda funny! :^)

Lol...My support for Commissioner Beaudreau is well-earned. He's the only Gwinnett elected official I've been able to support for re-election and above that re-reelection. That didn't happen by accident...

Know what's funny? There's one question I haven't been asked yet on the Patch and I'm a bit surprised given how much has been posted here in the past 2 months.

We're sure you'll tell us ...

No I'm surprised that it hasn't been asked. Maybe you can figure it out and ask after you figure out if you are a D3 resident or not.

Ah go ahead... we all know you itching to have the last entry in the exchange. (Smiles)

No R.....just surprised that no one's asked...I'll let everyone know when someone does and even you will agree that it's odd no one did so far.

Have you done your research yet btw...and when are you going to tell the community here if you are a D3 resident?

R...hows the research going and when are you going to disclose to the community here if you are a D3 resident?

@ Pink Floyd, The homework asignment was posted above for all to see.
It should help make up some minds. Since your man has at LEAST the 4500 of the Kenerly funds on hand...

Would an “ethical” guy keep funds when the guy that gave them owes Gwinnett County over 32K in back taxes? Why not just DONATE this total to the county and clear the books with a great headline (of course) because he really would be making a "hard" choice…

"Moving forward with an ABUNDANCE of caution"

You COULDN’T buy the amount of positive publicity this would generate…

Cool Kevin. Being involved in a campaign is a rip. I loved it and I hope to be involved in more in the future. Glad to hear you took a larger step in being involved in the affairs of your government on any level. Nice.

I know what you are referring to but it's not arrogance...it's an unwavering committment to be informed and make a decision he honestly thinks is the best one for D3 and Gwinnett. I can see how some see how he thinks as arrogant but it isn't.

It's really cool to hear of your involvement. Like it.

Quoting Floyd, in reference to Mike Beaudreau: "I know what you are referring to but it's not arrogance...it's an unwavering committment to be informed and make a decision he honestly thinks is the best one for D3 and Gwinnett."

Wrong Floyd . . .it's blatant, unadulterated, narcississtic arrogance, and it's all about what Mike Beaudreau honestly thinks is best for Mike Beaudeau, and Mike Beaudreau alone.

Ron...whatever...are you trying to be completely wrong or is this just random luck?

QUOTING FLOYD: "Ron...whatever...are you trying to be completely wrong or is this just random luck?"

Okay Floyd . . . Your argument this time consists of the word "whatever" and asking a generic rhetorical question. Brilliant.

Ron...your postings here have achieved an intellectual level roughly on a par with Sesame Street.

Hahahaha...good one...that's not it but you get course credit.

What is your relationship with Mike Beaudreau, Floyd? You laughed . . .but avoided answering the question.

Ron...you are about as impressive as a sack of hair. My relationship with Commissioner Beaudreau is about as well known of a fact as any other here. I do not consider it my job to do the 15 seconds of homework for you. If you can't do it yourself you'll just have to wonder the rest of your life. I'm pullin for you...I know you can do it!

FLOYD:Ron...you are about as impressive as a sack of hair.
Ron: What grade are you in? Your generic insults are weak, even by seventh grade standards. But moving on . . .
FLOYD: My relationship with Commissioner Beaudreau is about as well known of a fact as any other here. I do not consider it my job to do the 15 seconds of homework for you.
RON: So . . .you won't even answer that simple question. Got it.
FLOYD: If you can't do it yourself you'll just have to wonder the rest of your life. I'm pullin for you...I know you can do it!
RON: It's a mystery I can live with, yawn.

Don't make sport of that poor guys affliction.

Yeah...I've been wondering where you've been. Tell you what...when Mike Beaudreau wins the election I'll have him autograph one for ya! HAHAHAHAHA.

What did you think about the AZ law and the SCOTUS today? I loved it. Can't wait for the ObamaCare ruling likely on Thursday...You know that's going to produce some postings.

J. Morley , Looks like Tommy's one issue water has been put to rest by the courts . I guess he is done , You know kinda like you said of Korom and the Airport.

Is this the same Mike Korom who's website prominently talks about the actions of another candidate before he tells you anything about what he wants to do and how he'll do it? Look at the site...what do you see first? Tommy Hunter.

What did he do at the debate? In one of the first questions, about TSPLOST, he semi answers the question and then immediately launches into hunter and the letter of reprimand.

What else did he do at the debate? GCPS budget. Think it was a slip up? Read what he's posted here earlier. You don't think it's arrogance of the first order to come to a debate and before the seat's warm he starts throwing mud at another candidate? He talks about what he doesn't like about Mike but do you REALLY know what he'll do in office? His "plan" shows, apparently, that people below 316 don't really matter. Oh yeah...and his plan is deficit spending.

Ron...that is absurd. Your world is apparently a very tiny one....WAY too small for me.

Floyd Akridge
QUOTING FLOYD: "Ron...that is absurd. Your world is apparently a very tiny one....WAY too small for me"

Okay Floyd, your rebuttal consists, in it's entirety, a guesstimate of my "world size" . . ouch, how can I debate that, heheh.. Anyway:
Anyone who has been to a council meeting when public input is on the agenda knows exactly what I'm talking about. If anyone doubts that, I believe the meetings are archived and available online. They can see it themselves, they don't have to believe me or Floyd.

Ron...you must be brand spanking new here. I've been here for months talking about Commissioner Beaudreau....and you pop in with nothing but immature comments and mud throwing.

Let me ask you...have you ever BEEN in a socialist country? Or is it just a word you learned from a fortune cookie and throw around for sound bites. I have been in one...several times actually.

QUOTING FLOYD:"Ron...you must be brand spanking new here. I've been here for months talking about Commissioner Beaudreau....and you pop in with nothing but immature comments and mud throwing.

Let me ask you...have you ever BEEN in a socialist country? Or is it just a word you learned from a fortune cookie and throw around for sound bites. I have been in one...several times actually."

Care to actually address a relevant issue Floyd? You constantly dodge pretty much "anything relevant" and try to redirect the conversations to something, that . . .well . . .doesn't make Mike Beaudreau look bad . . . It ain't workin.

J...he can bring it over here if Mike doesn't win outright or make a runoff. By the way...while there may have been others...I'm the one who told him to run on a platform that included the development of water retention...that was back in mid 2007. You can thank me for that any time.

J...there are several realistic ways that Commissioner Beaudreau not only wins the election but even outright. Laugh if you want to but I've been involved in a campaign in an election nearly exactly like this.

And of course there are a couple of ways that are legit that he doesn't win. Like I said...I have a dog in this fight but past that I'm very interested in seeing how this goes. I'll be looking over the election data for a solid week once it's over.

J...I'm a data analyst by genetics and a darn good one at that. I can't say with a huge degree of certainty what will happen. There are logistical factors that have not occurred in any election I've been involved with or remember. I'm going to love reading over the data from gwinnett elections once it's over.

btw...here's a election story that's true. Back when Hurricane Katrina was in development it actually was supposed to turn due north after it crossed Florida and hit the panhandle. But there was a special election about that time and had it done so I would have been putting out signs the night before the election in at least tropical force winds. Yeah.....right. Imagine that.

FLOYD: I'm a data analyst by genetics and a darn good one at that.
RON: Eh . . .I'm not seeing that. A data contortionist maybe?
FLOYD: I can't say with a huge degree of certainty what will happen.
RON: Eh . . .no kidding.
FLOYD: There are logistical factors that have not occurred in any election I've been involved with or remember.
RON: Floyd, quit with the meaningless gibberish please.
FLOYD: I'm going to love reading over the data from gwinnett elections once it's over.
RON: For the sake of Gwinnett, I hope it's "less enjoyable" that you might think it'll be.
FLOYD:btw...here's a election story that's true. Back when Hurricane Katrina was in development it actually was supposed to turn due north after it crossed Florida and hit the panhandle. But there was a special election about that time and had it done so I would have been putting out signs the night before the election in at least tropical force winds. Yeah.....right. Imagine that.

RON: Great story. Relevant to . . . pretty much nothing . . . and it wasn't really a great story.

@Ron...Sesame Street must have just ended.

There are several things that are occurring with this election that I don't remember happening before. I'd explain them to you but I don't know how to compress it into "This information brought to you by the number 4" mentality.

Ron, if I wanted to impress you with my analytical ability I would but as I care about your opinion about as much as I care about Obama's I'm not wasting the electrons.

Win or lose I will enjoy pouring through the data available. I love learning how things work the way they do. Always have...always will.

Now...do you have something even semi-meaningful to bring to the table?

FLOYD:Ron...Sesame Street must have just ended.
RON: Another fifth grade "burn" . . . . . .heheheh. Okey Dokey . . . . moving on
FLOYD: There are several things that are occurring with this election that I don't remember happening before. I'd explain them to you but I don't know how to compress it into "This information brought to you by the number 4" mentality.
RON: In other words Floyd . . .ya got nothin.
FLOYD:Ron, if I wanted to impress you with my analytical ability I would . . . .
RON: Highly doubtful, but if you click your heels together three times and say "I'm not an evasive putz" three times, well . . . oh lets face it, you'd still be unimpressive.
FLOYD: . . . but as I care about your opinion about as much as I care about Obama's I'm not wasting the electrons.
RON: Okay we're back to "Floyd ain't got squat" . . .yet again. Yawn.

Win or lose I will enjoy pouring through the data available. I love learning how things work the way they do. Always have...always will.

Now...do you have something even semi-meaningful to bring to the table?

Folks...Ed Varn is a "man" who understands nothing of common courtsey and respect. He must be a NYC transplant.

What? I thought you were challenging us to find out your relationship to him? Was I wrong? If so, I gotta ask Google what's up.

Ed...I assumed you could read but as usual you bury yourself in our own stupidity for the amusement of others.

I was saying that there is a question that no one has asked me on the Patch. Didn't think about it myself until a day or so ago myself.

I hope I've made it simple enough for you. BTW...still going to be voting for the Democrat in the race if Commissioner Beaudreau wins the nomination? HAHAHA...geeze I loved that one.

Ron...everyone here is waiting to see if you LIVE in Gwinnett. Be honest.

FLOYD: Ron...everyone here is waiting to see if you LIVE in Gwinnett. Be honest.

RON: No Floyd, mainly it's just you who is waiting . . .which really isn't much incentive. You're just looking for any excuse to stop getting your ass handed to ya on a plate, since you can't actually support your positions, heheh.

So that's a no then Ron...Too bad...I was hoping you'd have the courage to answer but frankly I really didn't think you would...

My positions are completely supported....the fault is mine though...I really am having trouble breaking it down into terms you can understand. But you are doing nothing to me. Your hysterical rantings are about as impressive as a Harry Reid news conference. You are indeed handing something to me but the volume of flies give the contents away.

FLOYD: So that's a no then Ron...Too bad...I was hoping you'd have the courage to answer but frankly I really didn't think you would...

RON: It isn't a courage issue, heheh. It's a "none of your business" issue, plus it's kinda funny watching you struggle and try to find a way out of the fix you got yourself in.

FLOYD: My positions are completely supported....the fault is mine though...I really am having trouble breaking it down into terms you can understand.

RON: Oh I understand what your grade-school level generic insults mean, heheh. It's just that they're weak.

FLOYD: But you are doing nothing to me. Your hysterical rantings are about as impressive as a Harry Reid news conference.

RON: Yea, I am doing something to you. An number of folks here are. What is that? "Spankin ya" . . .and pretty badly. You're a MIke Beaudreau shill, Floyd . . .which speaks to Mikes integrity quite loudly.

FLOYD:: You are indeed handing something to me but the volume of flies give the contents away.

RON: Another alleged "burn" that simply fizzled out, Floyd. Kinda sad.

R...that would generate no positive publicity as you suggest. However that's not the reason to do it anyway.

Your idea regarding the cell tower is interesting but the first thing that leaps to mind is what kind of precedent this sets. That's a tough one to answer in detail but my first thoughts are that it wouldn't be a good or sustainable one.

Suggest it to him. Who knows...maybe you'll get a bobblehead out of it! :-)

You ARE kidding here right?

I mean you're the former campaign manager and see NO upside, at ALL?
The old software design adage of " if you can't FIX it, FEATURE IT! doesn't apply?

I'm sure the "real" campaign has or will read this shortly, the message has already been delivered.

AS to a booble head, it can be saved and the funds donated to the future "Refurbish the Stadium Bond fund" ...

R...that's right...not much if any upside at all. The real reason is that it keeps whatever the initial issue was alive and on the front burner longer.

Let me explain this a bit better...there'd be no (or or very very little) NET positive results. Let's say he took a contribution from Jerry Sandusky and returned it as soon as everyone learned about him...In that hypothetical case, yes, there would be at least some positive benefit but even then you start getting the "why didn't you know?" stuff from people so the net value is diminished. Every situation is different but hopefully that better explains why the positive value would likely be small or non-existent.

But of course, he wouldn't do it for that reason anyway.

Mr. Ed...you've already had one post deleted here today because of it's vulgarity and frankly inappropriateness. I find it amusing that you then point the finger at others.

But no matter...we both know that I've correctly refuted every incorrect point you've made and it grinds at you. So I'm a troll or post drivle or whatever the latest fortune cookie said. Affects me not...anyone who is so uninformed that they publicaly state that they are going to vote for a non-existent person in November doesn't really carry any weight here.

Good idea, Floyd. For me, I expect SCOTUS to take the easy way out by denying the individual mandate while leaving the rest of it intact, thus making the whole law moot.

So what you're saying is, you want to change the subject, because . . .well . . .you ain't doing Mike any favors with your insulting crap that mostly just ends up biting you in the ass.

For that, I can't blame you. But hey, the damage you did to Mikes campaign is in the best interest of District 3, thankfully. Good job Floyd, keep up the mediocre work.