I believe your assessment of the debate is a bull’s eye. I am extremely pleased with the outcome. Having been in sales and management I’ve developed the ability to read my client, the decision maker, in this case the voter’s response. We call it VOC (voice of the customer).
As you know we had 100 or more people there. I introduced myself to everyone, individually, before the meeting. All were accepting and attentive but for most it was the first time they had met me.
After the debate I again spoke to everyone in the room. Their response to me was very warm. While I believe it’s rare that someone ‘wins’ a debate. My instincts say the debate did my campaign more good than either of my opponents’.
There are a couple of things on my side. First of all I am the most conservative candidate of the three. Secondly, I have the facts on my side. Like my hero Ronald Reagan said in jest, “Facts are stupid things.”
As for ‘the other Mike’, to his credit, he stands behind his past decisions which include Gwinnett Stadium, trash plan, cell phone tower, and now the airport. As he said he still believes they are good plans/programs even if they do cost the taxpayers. This is clearly where I am more conservative. He believes the government knows better than the individual and therefore is willing to flex the county’s muscles.
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As for Mr. Olberholtzer, he is a very jovial, likeable guy. He won his second mayoral election in Snellville by 17 votes. He then termed out. He is a civil engineer currently seeking employment. I have a couple of concerns. When he lands a position with a company will he have the time necessary to adequately perform his duties as county commissioner? Also, he is obviously a career politician. If he’ll change his position on the airport to gain votes what else will he compromise? (Ref AJCGwinnett Oct.5, 2010)
“The same holds true for Snellville, Mayor Jerry Olberholtzer said. Airport expansion would lure large corporations to his city and with them, high paying jobs, he said. ‘think about it, you can live in Snellville, work in Snellville and have access and have access to an airport that would take you anywhere in the Southeat and Northeast,’ he said. ‘This would be very advantageous for the county as a whole.’”
Hmmm.

Cynthia...I appreciate your positive comments about Commissioner Beaudreau. I too enjoy the way he stands behind his decisions. It's one of the things that causes me to respect him the way I do.

Again...I couldn't agree with you more with respect to people getting involved, becoming informed and voting. Heck...I got to celebrate 30 years of never missing an election with getting to vote twice today...and it was legal!

For a fact I would have never voted for a trash plan that takes away the choice to purchase a product or service from the individual property owner and puts it in the hands of the government. This is fundamentally a socialistic approach. There are problems with this government program.
1. It eliminates free market competition which inevitably reduces quality.
2. The county is collecting funds and redistributing them.
3.Rental property owners are sometimes paying for a service they are not using and are providing it to the tenant.

For a fact I would never vote for the county government to contract directly with a cell phone company to locate a tower on government property (Rabbit Hill Park) to “provide a revenue stream for the county”, -Mike Beaudreau

As a point of reference, I have lived during the Carter years when the economy was at least as bad as it is today. Until recently, Mike Beaudreau has only lived and worked in at least good economic times and for the most part in excellent economic times. His decision with respect to the Gwinnett Stadium reflects this. The projections were very optimistic and where are we today? It’s another taxpayer burden.

The same holds true for the airport. In the words of Ronald Reagan, “There you go again.” Build it and they will come. In the words of the IMG consultants it’s been tried nine times around the country and each time the taxpayer has been left holding the tab.
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These are clearly not the economic times to be a big risk taker with county/citizens funds.

With 26 years of business experience in Greater Atlanta and Gwinnett County I have had to make tough business decisions that affect small businesses on a daily basis. To move this county forward we need to reduce the tax and control burden for the citizens. It’s time for greater leadership through transparency, fiscal responsibility, vision, and sound decision making that won’t compromise our financial stability.

Finally, one common thread of these programs is this. The county is now in a quagmire of litigation and the airport issue will be more of the same. The City Council of Lawrenceville has pledged to use its reserves (approximately $20Million) to fight the commercialization of Briscoe Field. Others will join the legal battle including businesses and individuals.

I stand by my statement. I AM the most conservative person in the District 3 field of candidates.

Just because a person stands behind something doesnt mean its was the right decision , matter of fact in can be a grand character flaw when a person cannot admit failure and change course for the greater good of the taxpayer.

Food for thought is property zoning philosophy. In the next term we will be facing many more requests to change / reduce previously approved zoning stipulations or conditions - most of which were hard fought at the time. Example, the current proposal to existing conditions around the staduim. What general process steps will be used if you are elected? Case by case review sounds reasonable and is the legal reality, but what about how one would use district overlays, CIDS, TADS, the 2020, 2030 planning department plats? How do we maintain commitments to residents and small businesses that did due diligence off of existing planning dept resources? The airport is an example of an important MAJOR event, but we don't want to lose sight of the day to day cases and give UNDUE influence to developers.

'R' you certainly are correct. While the airport is the major event, the other zoning issues are extremely important to our future. I am 100% against the relaxation of the zoning conditions at/around the stadium. The taxpayers have been burdened with a poor commission decision in respect to the stadium The local residents and all county citizens at very least deserve for the zoning conditions to maintain their legal standard and integrity.
As you say, each situation throughout the county is a case by case consideration. This is where sound judgement in the fore makes for better results in the aft.

I agree , It was sold to the public to push in the Stadium and should be honored !!

MR F, I too was around when Carter was in office. He was the first president I ever voter for & also the first democrat I have ever voted for. He taught me real quick to NEVER make that mistake again! Yes interest rates were at 21% , not 17%. As a realtor, I was taught the reality of how rates will affect my bottom line & my clients ability to purchase a home. BUT Mr F. People had jobs in the Carter years 7 gas was AFFORDABLE! A country can not run on borrowed money. A leader must listen to his voters and then make a decision that is best for the country & COUNTY. If he can not learn to bend and sway, in the harsh winds, he is surely to break in the winds just like a tree. It is hard for man to change in midstream yet, I feel your man's entire future political career is in front of him IF he can hear his voters wants. His past 8 years will be all that he will have, if he can not change his views. He said he was waiting for one final report on the airport. I suggest he used this report as a valid reason for changing his stance on the airport and hope it will calm the voters or his serving days will be over. Yet, 2 others have come forward to lead. As for zoning, the reason we have zoning boards it to get things rezoned. You have a family farm, you want to build houses, you rezone. You have a corner of land, you want to build a gas station, you rezone. You have a empty strip shopping center, you want to make it a church, you rezone. You have a failed project_______?

Thanks Greg!

Floyd, if you are calling facts, darts, you are absolutely correct. As the ‘other Mike’ said in our debate, he got involved in politics eight years ago when as an HOA member he was faced with a zoning issue that affected him. I got involved because of the airport initially. Just because he has governed doesn’t mean he has done a good job at it. Eight years ago his experience level in government was zero. Did you have the same view of him at that point?

As Reagan said, “Facts are stupid things.”- obviously in jest.

I believe you missed my point. Here’s what the ‘other Mike’ didn’t have at that time he was elected; 53 years of life’s experiences and 26 years of business experience in Gwinnett County. He was first elected when he was in his late twenties. As I also stated, his only life experiences have come in good economic times. His decisions reflect it and now we’re paying the price in taxes and litigation.
As for your ‘way off base’ statement as it relates Carter vs. Obama again you missed my point. Which is worse is clearly up for debate and time will tell. Again, my point is, until now Mr. Beaudreau has never had to operate in difficult economic times and it shows.

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Let’s get back to the facts. Do you think the trash plan, government controlled cell towers, tax burdens from a stadium and airport are conservative principles?

As for your suggestion that I made a ‘blanket statement’, concerning the nine failed attempts, those were the words of the airport consultants from Independent Management Group, not mine. I was at the meeting when they made the statement along with a hundred or so others.

Thanks Greg!

Mike, you made the blanket statement about the 9 other attempts in your posting. It is what it is.

Also, your comments regarding Commissioner Beaudreau's economic experience have little relevance. I wasn't alive during the Great Depression but does that mean I know nothing about it? I had the great experience of actually talking to a few people who were alive then and learned from that but I learned most of what I know about the Great Depression from research. In fact most of what we learn about our economics here in this nation comes from research. Mike can't do that?

Regarding 8 years ago, I didn't really care about the HOA stuff. There was plenty there to convince me he was ready to do the job. I knew it in 2004 and I was right.

I can't blame you for trying to minimize Commissioner Beaudreau's experience. I would too. But getting back to facts...he has 8 years...and of your 53 years of life experience and 26 years of business experience...you have zero. Mike has 8 years of being a conservative in the act of governance...you have 0 years. Like I said...that's not your fault but you are unproven in governance...Mike is a long term well proven conservative in government.

Darn it...just realized that I neglected to edit one of my previous posts. The way off base part didn't come across like I wanted and meant to change it to something else but forgot. My bad...sorry about that.

Floyd, please re-read my words. I stated, "In the words of the IMG consultants..." - not a blanket statement by me.. They said it, not me. They are paid consultants making a very concrete statement.
(Last line in my third post from the top.)

I still would like to know if you consider the plans/programs I inquired about above are ones that a conservative would support.

So let me understand, you voted for Mr. Beaudreau eight years ago when he had zero political experience and limited business experience? Surely you see the irony here.

I hate to say it, but this whole thing seems orchestrated. The original poster is obviously pro "savvy newcomer" (Korom), yet says she hasn't made up her mind yet. That's a nice dodge to make people thing she's being objective. Then she goes on to talk about commissioner Beaudreau as "Baby Mikey". I think you slighted Mr. Oberholtzer by not giving him a cutesy stage name (how about Savvy Oldcomer, Granpa Jerry or Flipflop Jerry?) The second point of deceit in the original post is all the chatter about the airport with just enough mention of other issues to make the post seem objective. Third, I believe it is incorrect to state that Commissioner Beaudreau is in favor of airport privatization and commercialization. I think his position is that he is in favor of a study that will show all the facts so that citizens can make an informed decision. This isn't the first time that political hacks have misrepresented a candidate's position about a study by using it to say he was in favor of a project.
Then we have the headline, which has absolutely nothing to do with the post. It's just there to suck readers in. After reading the post, that's not a surprise.

Sterling - It is my understanding also that Commissioner Beaudreau's position is in favor of the study for citizen's awareness.

As for Mayor Oberholtzer - let me go on record in his favor as saying that without a shadow of a doubt - he will make the time to do the job properly if elected. I followed Mayor Oberholtzer's career as a journalist for both his terms and not once did he falter in his responsibilities to his beloved Snellville. In fact, I would go out on a limb and make an educated assumption that his employment may have suffered because of the time it takes to be a public servant.

Both Commissioner Beaudreau and Mayor Oberholtzer have been longtime friends of mine and I respect both of them equally. They are both what I consider to be public servants - not politicians! And there is a GIANT difference!!!

Let's look at a few things. I mean I am just an observer and taxpayer. Look through my eyes an then maybe multiple my eyes by 25 to 30 thousand:

1. Kennerly and Bannister... land deals gone bad...millions wasted
2. Stadium deal...no return on investment.. millions spent. scrambling to find ways to pay interest back.
3. Property Taxes...retroactively raised.
4. Socialistic garbage pick up....bill attached to escrows forced on us
5. Litigation over garbage pick up...unecessary wasted money. Should have never happened in the first place.

Now read this:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/04/prweb121354.htm

It appears that Mr. Beaudreau is not doing what he said he would do back in 2004. In fact, he is doing what every other politician does, which is turn his back on his own words. As a homeowner, he is not representing my interests by forcing a commercial airport on me. In the article he speaks of restoring ethics. Really?

As for restoring ethics....Isn't Charlotte Nash saying the same thing now? Why is it that while Mr. Beaudreau was in the BOC so many unethical things happened and continued to happen even last fall?

Back to the eyes.. Citizens who are concerned see and hear all of this and the we can only surmise is that Mr. Beaudreau either doesn't care about us or he thinks we are stupid. He's no longer credible, he no longer represents people in his district and ignores conservative principals.

Floyd....yep. As I suspected....you sound just like a politician. Disregard what a consituent says deflect and blame... You are representing your good pal. It shows.

As for "forcing a commercial airport" I stand by that. I never said he voted for it or that it passed. It reads exactly the way I meant it. Forcing....as in he is most certainly forcing the issue. It is what it is.....like I said....you ( and your good pal) think we are stupid. This is not about twisting words. Forcing an issue that has been debunked just for the sake... is the real baloney Mr. Akridge. I am not going to bore by going over the data about the airport...that we've also paid for..... As for unethical...Mr. Beaudreau said he wanted to make sure things were ethical while he was on the board. You mean its not a stretch that while he was there he had no idea what was going on? I mean even the land deal for the Judges nephew? He signed off on it with the others. If he had the guts he would have blown it up then...but in the words of another Republican running...."hey..politics is a team sport...sometimes you have to go with the team."

Like I said....you guys must think we are stupid.

Sure Sure....Mike did everything he said he would do....I must have read something else...back to sheep pasture I go.....

We still haven’t had a conservative come out and plainly state for the record that;
The trash plan, tax burdens resulting from a stadium and airport are conservative principles.

Government controlled cell towers are an interesting example, making county land available for cell towers as a second ALTERNATIVE isn’t on the face always bad concept. Where the presence of towers was hardily fought by the populace, the option may have saved time.

BUT when a cell-tower request brought forth by a private party is tabled over 20 times, finally denied and THEN granted to the county itself just yards away under conditions the government solely creates for its OWN benefit, the government stops representing its residents and BEGINS to COMPETE with them unfairly. End result more litigation.

Now is THAT a conservative principle in action?

These items aren’t red herrings or “spaghetti on a wall” but MAJOR quality of live issues that impact for a decade or longer, plainly indicating the thought pattern that government MUST grow.

Now let’s hit the trash plan one more time since the Board of Commissioners directly failed in their public promise of competitive bidding. This settlement locked the unincorporated residents of Gwinnett into a 10 year package that cost roughly 20 percent MORE than required for the actual services purchased. CITIES contained within Gwinnett are NOT locked in to this so if they annex property, the remaining unincorporated county residents apparently get stuck with covering any lost revenue to the trash haulers. NOW if a NEW city gets created, their property owners are now FREED from the county agreement as was the case with Peachtree Corners. Trash service independence was one of 3 core areas that the city charter specifically lists and voters approved the city creation on.
So now that this city exists, seems some rumblings from our county leadership turned up during the city of Peachtree Corners election process to have them “remain in the fold” regarding trash service or it might create “ill will” with the county and possibly impact future cost delivery of services negotiations. Having just settled the SDS issue with cities to the tune of millions of dollars over years, is this a display of conservative principles?
Is locking a population into an arrangement which exceeds the elected terms office holders, one that can be legally redefined by a select few as time goes on, driving up cost on the remaining unincorporated population a conservative principle?

More citys annexations could be the correction to a out of control County Government .

And new Cities .

Oh , by the way thats not an easy thing for me to say , but it rings true coming from a life long unincorporated Gwinnett County resident.

Mr Stirling, Hello it is Cynthia! I am pleased that you have read so much into my blog. I never met Mike Korom until the night of the debate. I attended the debate instead of the Dacula council vote as Kristi said she was going to record that meeting, I had written on the PATCH to Korom after reading his postings. I had never met the Mayor until the debate also. Both men held my attention for different reasons. I then blogged about it two days later. I am a good citizen, I attend council meetings. I organize voter registrations, I host debates. I take people to vote. SO I guess I am not sounding like an average citizen. I did not know who I was going to vote for until I walked into the polling place (please read EDUCATE ME ABOUT WHO TO VOTE FOR ON TUESDAY). I will continue to attend & arrange debates as a way to get my fellow Gwinnettians interested in politics. I have a DAWG in this fight & am not shy about talking politics. I am honest in saying I have not been as interested in the Airport issue as I have followed the trash issue. I have rental property & now I am being charged a year in advance 4 times for trash pickup. There are times that my rentals are empty & I STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR AN EMPTY TRASH CAN! Sorry to say, but I am not a plant but I think MR F is for Beaudreua! You can see I have been posting for the PATCH in many counties, well before Korom came on down. Thanks for your comments. I hope you will continue to follow my musings. C U at the debate!

MR F, at times (like above) you speak like a true follower. At other times your words give reason for others voters to discard your man. Politics can make strange bedfellows and our passion can sometimes get the better of our fingers. Your man held his own at the debate in a very hostile room. But it was also apparent he has angered many voters in his district. WIth out a radical change in his opinions and actions, I can see another candidate getting the votes that in the past went to your man. Many are wanting to change to another camp, such is politics! He looks like a candidate, he speaks like a candidate, and apparently he has, in the minds of his past voters he has behaved like a bad candidate in this airport issue. It is sad to see one so young, who went into politics for all the right reasons, be swept out the door like everyone else that was on that board. It is said in the journalism and political realms that "Voters Have Short Memories" meaning that once an issue is off the front page they forget it. Your man's problem is that the action was so hated that the voters have the trash and airport issue seared into their minds and will not forget it. Hope your words on upcoming blogs do not dwindle down to personal attacks. Great minds talk about ideas. Good minds talk about things. Weak minds talk about people. What about the airport changing do you like most? Let's stay on ideas. Thanks for your comments. See you at the Stars & Strikes Debate in June!

Floyd - I must agree with you in that you are not a plant, inasmuch as I have many hours experience on a tractor with a brush cutter in tow. However, when I deal with the likes of your positions at times, I’ve found the use of the tractor’s front end loader bucket to be very effective and I thank the good LORD for 4 wheel drive… (smiles) With a movement of levity out of the way, now back to serious discussion of the topics at hand.

The reality of zoning policy approaches, it was common for commissioners to grant one request to table a zoning application for either side, when it was formally asked for and the public has seen occasions where even more extensions have routinely occurred. (See meeting date 12/14/2010 time index 23:26 and following)
However, in the last few months when Kevin Kenerly was fighting to keep his seat but didn’t actually sit in on the evening zoning meetings, Mr. Beaudreau acted as his “designated representative” with regard to 2010-0245 - RZC2010-00007. Time index: 00:17:35 - 00:22:37 of the BOC Public Hearing July 27, 2010.
Meeting web link access: http://www.gwinnettcounty.com/portal/gwinnett/Departments/BoardofCommissioners/CommissionMeetingVideos

The public at large didn’t know about this “designated arrangement” before hand as a party with a zoning application pleaded for the matter to be tabled, because they couldn’t reach their commissioner Mr. Kenerly. When then Chairman Banister appeared willing to grant the applicant’s request for a one time table, Mr. Beaudreau stepped in, denied the request even though NONE had occurred previously on this application’s history. Mr. Beaudreau then proceeded to deny said application against the repeated requests by the applicant to be heard.

That black period was indeed uncharted times for our county, but was this ruling an example of a seasoned, balanced conservative approach?

In politics voters get to make up their minds as to whom they will vote for depending on their "take" of each candidate. FIrst, I do not believe in career politicians. For that very reason, I am leaning away from MB. I find that when in office too long, their ability to read their voters begins to suffer. It is a long way until July & I hear another candidate might be entering the race. I would like to hear MB's take on that report. I want to give the Mayor a second look as I have heard good things about him. Kormon did a good job as a political newcomer. As for labeling his a political newcomer, I have worked on campaigns & I would never tell a candidate to call himself an "outsider." This term has negative emotions tied to it. My decision will affect me for 4 years during the AIRPORT ERA, so I gather information. The good people of Gwinnett want to go in another direction &wipe clean the trash & airport stain. People tend not to change their minds, Bad days happen but if it becomes bad years, it is time to change leadership. It is the undecided that you should be focused on not the decided. To continue to try to change the minds of the decided is a waste of your time. R, Ed, & Stirling, have decided! You should be targeting the undecided. History shows that up to 20% are undecided in any race. I now believe it has to go with age! WIthout changing MB's path, I do not see him recovering. His only hope it that it rains & his detractors stay home! NO CONSEQUENCE NO CHANGE!

Cynthia, I agree with your statement that we will cast a vote for "someone" to move us forward in the AIRPORT Era. That's why candidates have to be more than a one or 2 issue "type" because there are so many things to be confronted. I have seen a new guy throw his hat in a very big ring and have already observed growth and a willingness to get council from as broad a range of prospective providers as possible and have yet to hear "Get over it" once. I've observed fairly even handed exchanges when attempts were made to redirect other blogs right here on the Patch. I sincerely hope the growth continues and accelerates before the next public gathering. If any candidate tries to stay on just a couple topics for the night, pulling a Rudy Giuliani, the campaign will share Rudy's presidential campaign fate.

Frankly, I don't remember any challenge in 2008 to Mike B and maybe for that we owe Mike B a backhanded apology. Why? because he "grew up" under the wings of Charles Bannister, a wound in retrospect indirectly inflicted by the entire county vote and enough people didn't scream loud enough in 2006. Its not an excuse or a pass,but a plausible explanation as to how we got where we are now.

As to where we are headed in the future, my vote isn't a "locked" with tone, but I am looking for our collective GPS to start screaming RECALCULATING!!! before we encounter anymore Mayhem.

The content below is a duplicate from another post on the Patch but seemed applicable here too.

The grand jury report should be a required read for EVERY citizen before they vote this time around because it dealt with a lot more than just those unfortunate matters linked to indictment or threat thereof. It dealt with internal county government communications, the tendencies of not obtaining input of staff, confused lines of communication to list just a few. ANYONE who witnessed the infamous evening BOC Public Hearing August 23 2011 where staff was charged with borderline insubordination over the airport RFP processing should first review the report below, then see the meeting video. All are encouraged to read all Grand Jury pages in entirety, but if your eyes will gloss over, at least see the page list following; 5, 12,28,29,30,36,37,48,49,51,52,53.
http://www.talkgwinnett.net/stuff/files/101026_grand-jury-present.pdf

View the BOC Public Hearing August 23 2011. 2011-0761 Time index: 01:07:57 - 02:02:00 website link: http://www.gwinnettcounty.com/portal/gwinnett/Departments/BoardofCommissioners/CommissionMeetingVideos

PS:
If anyone has access to any other filed Addendums please feel free to post.
http://www.bobgriggs.com/commissioner-nasutis-addendum-to-the-gj-report/

R. I did try to get that to play & could not. I admit I have not been on top of the airport issue (attending meetings, reading reports, background search as to whom it will profit if it goes through) but have heard NOTHING but complaints from everyone I speak to about it. Brisco Field is not that big now 7 it is land locked by a city & major highways. I guess across the train tracks, over Hwy 8, & into King's Hill is the plan. Poor Plan if you ask me.There is CHEAP LAND UP I-85. GO north young man! If "they" want an airport, go buy some cheap land in the wide open land up I-85 & build an airport! It is too late to put one on this side of town! I heard all about 8-23-11 & I think that was supposed to happen so this could happen, THE SLEEPING GIANT HAS BEEN AWAKENED! It doesn't take a lawyer to be a city councilman. It takes someone willing to put in the time necessary to study issues. It takes listening to your voters. It takes salesmanship to make things happen. It takes devotion to your commitment to listen & lead. When you stop listening - you stop leading! MB may look the part & speak the part but, I am not sold that he can lead without the support of the voters. The issue of 8-23-11has MB in a place where he has lost credit with his pubic. We need a clean break & a new leader is what I keep hearing. I would like to see what the next debate brings before I commit. Until then the words, "Sometimes you gotta bow up and take one for the team," seems to fit well here.

I'm glad that I do not rely on the Patch for any sort of actual news. I will make no comment on the actual news involved in this story. However, I will take issue with such a poorly written account of a local political meeting. This article contains many typos and is almost incomprehensible. A reader would have no clue what actually happened by reading this article. They would however get a very good sense of poor writing that has a heavy dose of the writer's own personal opinion and political leanings. The Patch needs to send the writer to take a few journalism classes and help her realize that not everyone in Gwinnett is interested in her opinion or is a Republican southern woman. Some of us actually want to understand what happened at the meeting and what the issues are.

Hi David - This section of the site is called "Local Voices." It is a section where Dacula residents can post blogs about issues of interest to them. These bloggers are not employed by Patch and do not represent Patch. Patch does however provide the platform for local residents to share their opinions and interact with other readers.

This piece is not meant to be a news account and is labeled as opinion. I appreciate the fact that Cynthia has a strong interest in politics and took the time to share her views. I encourage you to ask her any questions you may have and enjoy the exchange with other Patch readers.

Mr DD, Come now, shame on you. You must be new to the BLOG era. We all give each other that occasional miss SPPELLEDD word in favor of our quick ability to speak our minds. The PATCH allows the pulse of the community to be shared in real time. Yet, there always seems to be that, holier than thou, I B smart, U B Stupid, mean spirited blogger that comes along feeling the need to BLAST the people that have a spine to comment. We recognized YOU right away. Don't like the opinions, can't give a valid rebuttal, just criticize the writers. We are adults & we all have our own opinions. We all recognize the rights of the other's opinion."WE PLAY NICE" as the ladies of Hamilton Mill say about FB. Don't SAHRE my opinion, no problem, give your own. If this is not a venue that appeals to your nice side, go back to reading the nearly dead Sunday paper! It must just kill you to know that for over a week citizens have commented & brought up topics about the debate that YOU DID NOT EVEN ATTEND! I was there. I wrote what I saw & heard. If you don't vote, you have no right to gripe. Ditto on the Debate! Angry White Men! How dare a woman give her opinion! I enjoyed every spring morning that I ran to the J building on the beautiful UGA campus & earned Dean's List honors & my ABJ. Guess what? The sign of a good writer is that others feel compelled to take time & write back. YOU COMMENTED! At UGA we learned; 1 response = 100 readers. Comments Mr BB or just more gripes? IS your man the Mayor?