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Colin Powell is Wrong (with a Tribute to Edward Brooke)

 

In a recent interview on NBC's "Meet the Press", moderate Republican General Colin Powell, who served as Secretary of State under George W. Bush, claimed that the Republican Party has an "identity" problem. He then added that the Republican Party looks down on minorities . "There is a dark vein of intolerance in some parts of the party. They still look down minorities."

In reality, Powell has an integrity and information problem. The notion that the Republican Party is a racist organization does not withstand any serious scrutiny. Powell suggest that the Republican Party "take a very hard look at itself." Perhaps the former general should take a long hard look at the Republican Party's history.

Founded in Michigan in 1854, the Republican Party welcomed federal internal improvements, disgraced Federalists and Whigs, and championed the end of slavery. Taking on liberal positions without overthrowing the entire political machinery of the federal government, the first Republican candidate to win the Presidency, Abraham Lincoln, waged a war first to preserve the union, then shifted not just to end the spread of slavery, but to outlaw the "peculiar institution" once and for all. Because of his political acumen and legal maneuverings (all celebrated in the Steven Spielberg epic "Lincoln,") the beloved sixteenth president helped pass Amendments Thirteen, Fourteen, and Fifteen, which respectively granted the African-American freedom, citizenship, and the vote.

Following the Civil War, the Republicans controlled the White House for the next fifty years, pushing Civil Rights legislation in the 1870s. African-American legislators for Congress and the Senate ranked among the Republicans. Blacks in general identified with the Republican Party precisely because during that period of time, the Democratic Party, including the "Solid South," entitled itself "The White Man's Party." The first Democratic President to serve two consecutive terms after the Civil War, Princeton President Woodrow Wilson, was a racist progressive who purged the White House and the Washington bureaucracy of African-Americans while waging a costly American intervention in World War I and jailing anti-war political dissenters, including socialist Presidential candidate Eugene V. Debs. The next Republican President, Warren G. Harding, released Debs and reintegrated blacks back into the White House and Washington.

Despite the widespread Democratic dominance of the 1930's and 1940's, Republicans still gathered a plurality of the black vote. Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater launched a campaign based on states' rights instead of Washington righteousness. Despite the backlash of Civil Rights supporters in the 1960's, "Negroes for Goldwater" spread the word on his behalf. Richard Nixon won 38% of the black vote, then forty-nine states in 1972.

Ronald Reagan took in his own "rainbow coalition" without condescending to minority voters, but welcoming all of them, regardless of their skin color. Republican President Eisenhower defended the Little Rock Six against the segregationist Democratic hegemony in the South. Nixon finished the desegregation that Republican Supreme Court Justice Earl Warren had started with Brown v. Board of Education.

Powell later spewed race-based spite about Romney, castigating the former Massachusetts governor's less scintillating statements. Romney's "47%" remark was bad, but Romney was not racist when he quipped "The President was lazy" to explain why the President did so poorly in his first debate. The "political correctness" police imagined him then saying "shiftless" and other negative terms which had disparaged African-Americans.

All of this race-bating around "code speech" is unsubstantiated and insulting. Besides, Colin Powell conveniently neglected Vice President Joe Biden's "Chains, y'all!" interjection at one Democratic meeting. Before that, national media outlets were slamming Biden for calling President Obama an "articulate" politician. The mad search for racist commentaries and subtexts has distorted the proper discourse in this country while insulting minority voters, as if they are not made of "sterner stuff" to begin with.

One Democratic President, the crummy architect of the crumbled "Great Society," said the following:

“I’ll have those [racial epithet] voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” - Lyndon B. Johnson

However, the most impressive indictment against Powell's uninformed assertion rests on no greater an example than former Massachusetts' US Senator Edward Brooke, the first African-American to be elected to the US Senate by popular vote, and a Republican. In reviewing his eventful political life, Brooke joined the Republican Party because they gave him an opportunity to serve. He agreed with the Republican stance on civil rights, since it was the Massachusetts GOP which desegregated the Bay State schools. Brooke was a moderate who respected limited government and individual opportunity. He served as the Massachusetts Attorney General, winning statewide in 1964 while Barry Goldwater's Presidential campaign tarnished the Republican brand briefly. Refusing to endorse his party's Presidential nominee, Brooke went on to win the US Senate seat against an incumbent Democrat in 1966 and reelection in 1972.

Colin Powell suggests that the Republican Party has an "identity" problem, when in fact they have a memory problem, failing to remember and remind the country that the Republican Party has the stronger legacy on civil rights and minority respect than the Democratic Party. Just ask Massachusetts' former US Senator Edward Brooke. And Alabama's Artur Davis and South Carolina's Tim Scott. . .

Good Grief Y'all

6:48 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

You're wrong, Mr. Schaper. Gen. Powell lives it. He knows of which he speaks. Today's Republican Party ain't your daddy's RP. Today's RP includes the Dixiecrats - Dems who jumped ship because of the l964 Civil Rights Act. You can doll it up all you want to, but the recent campaign is proof of what Colin Powell said on Sunday. Excellent appearance by him! It was so refreshing to see a Republican who didn't spew on the typical talking points. I have noticed a few other Rs have dialed it back on the Sunday shows. But you keep it up - it's good for the Democrats. 2014!

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GregRodgers

9:07 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Totally Agree...

I have heard Mr. Schapers argument before, and while there is truth in his article it does not wisk away the issues that Colin Powell talked about during Meet The Press.

However, I must say if Mr. Schapers argument is to blow off what Powell and many others have said then I say...Republican party full steam ahead!

The party did not learn from 2008 and got torched and embarrassed (see Karl Rove and Ohio Results) in this cycle. If the party does not want to recognize its current identity problem then they will prove Powell and others correct.

And just because Powell (a Republican) has decided to support Obama does not make him a turncoat. Its folks who simply vote party who are the problem.

I commend people like Powell and other Republicans who can see that the Republican party as it stands now has very serious problems and want those issues corrected. Those who want to talk about the party from 200 years ago are the folks with the identity problem. They are not facing reality's of the present.

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Good Grief Y'all

10:06 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Thanks for the backup, Greg. It can get lonely on these threads ;)

Arthur Christopher Schaper

7:02 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Wrong, sir, wrong.

For Powell to claim that he is a moderate and then support immoderate Obama is a classic case of cognitive dissonance.

I provided facts and history. You have provided an opinion. You have failed to make your case.

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Racer X

8:04 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

GGY isn't a man, man...and you can forget about getting anymore than a government programmed opinion out of her.

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Good Grief Y'all

8:53 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I already told him that, Rman. As I have also already pegged you, it is your type that is programmed. I am a free thinker, do my own research, come to my own conclusions. You get yours the easy way, evidently - just repeat what you hear that you like, over and over.

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Racer X

7:41 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

You already told him you were programmed by the government? That was very uncharacteristically nice of you.

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Good Grief Y'all

7:48 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Racer said . . . "GGY isn't a man, man . . . " More evidence of poor reading skills. I think this is a very male problem.

idiot

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Racer X

8:08 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

That's my girl, back to normal, whew.

Good Grief Y'all

7:12 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

That's ok, Art. I'll take the General's viewpoint as genuine. So, you're saying the Dixiecrat Dems didn't move to the RP? You're saying today's RP is the same as Lincoln's, Teddy Roosevelt's, Eisenhower's, Reagan's even? You or anyone can easily verify that it's not. Any links I would post would be ridiculed, probably. The General is a moderate. The President is barely left of center - that's why the far left criticizes him. The view from your end is so far right of center, it just looks like the President is "immoderate". Political talk seems so shrill these days and empty. And, I'm not trying to make a case. My purpose IS to state my opinion. Isn't that what comments are for? Peace.

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Amy Jellicoe

9:49 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

LOL...I thought you were a he also. Then when you told one of the weirdos that he dislikes women, I thought you were a gay man. I figured it out when the weirdo said you're a she. No matter what, you rock and you're the ultimate badass in my book!!!

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Good Grief Y'all

6:56 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Haha, Amy! Thanks! At least I have one fan ;) Those guys would never attack a male like they have me, except a very smart and nice man whose first initial is also G. But they don't get as ugly with him and he takes it in stride.

Tammy Osier

7:19 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Sir, your history is correct. People like to try to rewrite history because that's the only way they can get votes - to paint others wrongly and the yknow their followers will believe every word. The proof is the passes they give their own. I'd like to ask Mr. Powell why he became a republican when nothing he stands for is. Maybe because of his military background. Who knows.
Republican policies put people to work and give them dignity. Liberal policies cause them to be beholden to government. I'd rather be on the side of prosperity and opportunity for all. And the recent victory wasn't a mandate (too many fell for the rhetoric but will change when the piper comes calling). A mandate is when you get a landslide- this one was divided almost down the middle.

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Good Grief Y'all

6:59 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Tammy, Gen. Powell isn't trying to rewrite history and neither am I. He stated he was raised Republican. He's loyal to his own history, evidently. There are still a few different flavors of Republican left. The landslide was in the electoral college vote. My point is that the General was talking about the current RP, and this column is about the history of the RP - long past history.

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GregRodgers

9:15 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Tammy....you wrote:

"I'd like to ask Mr. Powell why he became a republican when nothing he stands for is. Maybe because of his military background. Who knows. "

Look no further than what has been written. The Republican party was different years ago. It was then probably more appealing to Powell then. He is talking about the party now. He still identifies with the party as it was back then...his concern is why the party has become somewhat radical and would like it to return to sane leadership as it was when he joined the party.

Republican party of old is no longer the filled with thinkers and doers in Washington. Its filled with followers of Yes men/women to Boehner and party leadership (plus special interests) and the Party of NO to compromise and the American People.

Its a party of holding us hostage instead of doing what needs to be done to keep us moving forward.

Arthur Christopher Schaper

10:29 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Thank you, Tammy!

I am tired of people rewriting history.

The more people know what the Democratic elites were up to, like Mr. Johnson's invidious comment about African-Americans, the more I believe that minorities will find their views, their culture, and their history are respected in the GOP.

Please share this post with the GOP and any swing voters. This country deserves better than Progressivism on steroids.

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GregRodgers

9:20 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I thank you for writing about history. Its important for people to understand what has happened in the past.

With that being said...past history of the Republican party is not governing the party today. The things that Powell mentioned ..."Shucking and Jiving" came from a party leader in recent history. Powell is talking about the party today and the party moving forward.

The problem...stop talking about the past it means nothing to the Republican party of today. With talk of "shucking and jiving"....the past seems alive and well from Powell perspective and he should not be proud of his party for keeping that flame alive.

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

1:42 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Greg:

Did you even read my post?

LBJ called black people "N---gers". Biden said "Chains, y'all!" The link which talks about LBJ's invidious remark will lead you to a number of racial epithets out of Democratic politicians' mouths, like Jesse Jackson's remark about New York, which he called "Hymietown" -- totally unacceptable.

Black unemployment is "twice the national average" -- without being too crude about, President Obama is very much the "White Man's President", since it was and is the white vote which has gotten him elected, or the lack of a white vote which caused Romney to lose.

Yes, demographics are changing in this country, and that is good. I only wish that Democratic Party elites respected everyminority voter, not just hitting them up for votes then dropping them.

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Good Grief Y'all

6:28 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Hispanics, blacks and white women re-elected President Obama.

Tammy Osier

6:32 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

ACS - propaganda at it's finest, alive and well in the USA. I've got to go to work, but will find some great links, written by highly respected black americans who have studied history and give a balanced perspective on the subject. Look at the map of black americans who are now becoming governors and senators representing the republican party. They are infuriating the left, being called uncle toms and all kinds of vicious names (oh wait...I thought republicans were the racists?). No wonder black americans have shied away. It's not because of the republican idology, but because of the persecution from the left that doesn't want them exposing their underbelly. I believe by the time the next four years are up, you may see a lot of defectors.

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Good Grief Y'all

8:50 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

OMG, Racer. If ever there was a racist comment it's yours above. You don't give an entire race of people much credit, do you? I don't see a true statement in any of that. As a white person, I'm embarrassed about you.

You need to look up the welfare stats, by state (red vs blue) and by race. And, you should know that 5% of the federal budget goes for corporate welfare (subsidies) and only about 3% for individual (people) welfare.

The propaganda on this is coming from your folks, not mine.

You probably do need to CC if you're as offensive in person as you are online.

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Rebecca McCarthy

9:10 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

"To date, seven African Americans have served in the United States Senate. In 1870, Hiram Revels of Mississippi became the first African American senator. Five years later, Blanche K. Bruce of Mississippi took the oath of office. It would be nearly another century, 1967, before Edward Brooke of Massachusetts followed in their historic footsteps. Carol Moseley Braun broke new ground in 1993 becoming the first African American female to serve as U.S. senator. In 2005, Barack Obama of Illinois became the fifth African American to serve and third to be popularly elected. Upon Obama's resignation to become president, Roland Burris was appointed to fill the vacancy, becoming the sixth African American senator and the third to occupy the same Illinois Senate seat." (from the website for the U.S. Senate) The Republican SC governor appointed Republican Tim Scott to replace Tea Party favorite Jim DeMint.

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Good Grief Y'all

9:27 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Racer must have deleted his comment ;) Or was it removed by Patch? There are many more of his comments he or Patch should use that button on. He probably did it. I know from experience that Patch doesn't act that quickly. If only I had copied and pasted his post inside my own. Oh, well it's probably for the best that it was removed.

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

1:59 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Good Grief, "Good Grief"!:

First you call Tammy's comment "racist", but then you switch to talking about corporate welfare (which I think should be repealed, too). Where['s the connection?

Then you call Tammy's comment "propaganda", when she is shraing information that has been verified before.

Then you call her "offensive", yet fail to explain what is offensive about her or her comments.

These ad hominem attacks are meaningless, but when someone has neither facts nor law on their side, they will pound the table, as you have chose to do.

"Good Grief, Y'all!" Good Grief, indeed!

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Good Grief Y'all

2:25 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Wrong, Arthur. I was replying to Racer X's comment, which was deleted. I wasn't talking to Tammy in that post. You do know how these reply buttons work, don't you.
See, my comment begins, "OMG, Racer." ?

I wish I had copied and posted his comment since you obviously didn't see it. It was so bad, so racist that you might be embarrassed.

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Good Grief Y'all

6:23 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Good Grief - yes indeed, Arthur Christopher Schaper, good grief, indeed.

May I expect an apology?

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Good Grief Y'all

6:21 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

And Arthur, Tammy is the first person who introduced the accusation of propaganda in this post, not I. Then it was Racer X. Propaganda is a word oft and wrongly used by mostly Republicans. Geez, talk about knee-jerk, jump-to-conclusion reactions!

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Racer X

8:05 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

GGY- Patch removed my comment as it had more truth in it than they could stomach.

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Good Grief Y'all

6:42 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

Well, Racer, that makes more sense. You don't see the error of your ways, ever.
Congratulations to Patch for quick action. That must have taken a lot of flags.

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Good Grief Y'all

7:01 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

I guess the author, Arthur Christopher Schaper, doesn't do apologies. He accused me of something I didn't do, then ignored the correction without so much as an acknowledgment, much less an apology. Mr. Schaper, however, is quick with his gratitude to those who agree with him. I have waited patiently while he continues to post and reply, defending his views or appreciating his supporters.

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Racer X

8:00 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

Keep waiting baby sister. When you get up this morning, look in the mirror, if you can stand it, there lie your issues.

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Good Grief Y'all

2:48 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

Racer, you're right that my wait will be indefinite. Methinks Mr. Arthur don't wanna touch on this subject again. Not very nice of him to skip the apology he owes me. He must be taking lessons from you.

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

2:45 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

GGY
6:23 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
"Good Grief - yes indeed, Arthur Christopher Schaper, good grief, indeed.
"May I expect an apology?"

I'm sorry that you choose to insult people with insolent comments and denigrate others people because of their political views.

I'm sorry that you chose not to have a civil discussion with other individuals on this post.

I'm sorry that you have resorted to invidious comments which manifest a bigotry born of misunderstanding, fear, or misdirected anger.

I repeat: I provided facts, history, and personal accounts in my post. Often from people on the other side of these political discussions, I witness nothing but race-baiting and name-calling, which basically means: "You have proved your point. I have no point to prove, so I will just point imagined faults and slights.

I forgive you your unkind comments, and I believe that this post has opened a much more fruitful discussion, one which ties civil rights and limited government together, for no one can separate such close friends (to paraphrase Abraham Lincoln)

Instead of "Good Grief" I receive "God's Grace" -- and I do not apologize for that, either.

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John B

3:06 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

ACS....you speak eloquently and have nailed GGY for who she is with laser precision. I really enjoyed your blog.

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Good Grief Y'all

5:10 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

Mr. author, all I deserve from you is an apology for your wrongful accusation against me. Instead you chose to attack me with a hurtful, hateful diatribe. That is not a nice way to treat your very first poster. You should probably thank me. Without my starting post, it's doubtful you would have received such a response thread. But, I'm not looking for any appreciation. A simple apology for your wrongful accusation would do. But, I'm a realist. I no longer expect that.

I haven't insulted or name-called anyone, except the couple of people who attacked me first. They delight in goading such a response from me, and they enjoy it. Would you deny them? We have quite the history on such exchanges.

I hope you won't take too much glee in your endorsement from John B, as he is my most avid stalker-harasser. Nothing to take pride in there.

I forgive you your harsh words.

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John B

8:21 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

Now why do you need to bring my name into it...I think you have an obsession with me...I wish you would stop stalking me........

Good Grief Y'all

7:08 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I think amongst the 98% of African Americans who vote Democratic tickets, there are probably more than a few intelligent, educated and history-minded people. :D
Really, you hold it against Gen. Powell that he twice voted for the man he deemed the best for POTUS - what were his choices on his own party's ticket? McCain (look at him now) and Palin (just imagine how bad everything would be right now, and be honest; you can do this privately). And the last one - Romney, the man who invented Obamacare, the very first item on his agenda to undo - an unauthentic being who only needed to be able to use a pen (Karl Rove). That's just too much to expect of a very learned and experienced leader like Gen. Powell.

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Racer X

8:09 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

The above message is brought to you by our Federal Government. Reading messages like the above can lead to lethargy, bloating, mood swings and blaming everybody but yourself for your problems. Do not operate heavy equipment after reading the above message.

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Good Grief Y'all

8:58 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Thanks again, Racer, for proving my point about yourself. Attacking, bullying and insinuating with lies. What IS your hangup about hormones, man? Another reason to be embarrassed about you. Grow up. Didn't you say your mother was a teacher? She forgot to teach you social etiquette, good manners and respect of other human beings, especially women. All that is just my opinion :D

Peg Thon

10:02 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Mr. Powell seems to have done all right with the Republicans in the past: National Security Advisor under Reagan, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under GHW Bush, and Secretary of State under GW Bush. That certainly shows an intolerance, doesn't it?

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Good Grief Y'all

10:11 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

His resume is outstanding. His party should listen to him.

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John B

8:53 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

If Powell endorsed Romney would you still say his resume was outstanding?...answer yes and you're full of more crap than a xmas turkey....please remove your programming chip............

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Good Grief Y'all

2:57 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

You ask me a question that you dictate be answered with a pre-qualified response? No thanks, JB, I have no appetite for that turkey.

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John B

8:17 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

you just answered the question.....

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Good Grief Y'all

8:22 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013

General Powell's resume has nothing to do with his political choices. It's still outstanding either way. My answer . . . not yours.

Ed Varn

10:44 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

His resume IS impressive--thanks to the party he now wants to criticize.

Classic case of biting the hand that feeds you.

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Karsten Torch

10:54 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

And like I just posted, it's not the same party. But, again, not quite for the reasons he gives....

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

1:44 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Great Point, Ed!

I had so much respect for Mr. Powell as Secretary State. Sadly, it appears that he has sold out and wants to profit from the color of his skin instead of resting in the content of his character.

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Good Grief Y'all

7:09 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

Republicans don't tolerate criticism or questions. Gen. Powell hasn't bitten his party. He has been bitten by his party, and he ain't the only one.

Karsten Torch

10:51 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I think Powell's statements on the GOP were only wrong because of WHY he thinks the GOP is having issues. It has nothing to do with race - that's a fabrication being led by the left and furthered by the media. The left LOVES to cry 'racism.' Especially when none exists. It seems to be the only defense they usually have.

The GOP's problems are far deeper than mere racism. They've gone from the party of 'less government' to the party of 'our government is better than their government.' They have just as much problem inserting pork into bills and getting involved in the lives of Americans. They've also developed an aversion to confrontation, instead resorting to kow-towing to the wishes of the left when the pressure begins to build. There's been a few things they've done OK on, blocking some of the more heinous bills that have been introduced, but haven't done very well in standing their line.

You're right - the GOP is not the Republican party of old. The Republican party of old was much more into equal opportunity and personal freedoms.

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

1:52 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Karsten:

I would submit that your assessment of the GOP's problem of "Our government is better than yours" is correct, but that comment applies to the GOP elites, not the massive number of Republican voters. This disconnect must be removed and resolved, and it will be.

I see a massive slate of down-to-earth Republican leaders talking truth to power, shedding away the "Big Government' GOP leaders for statewide governors who cut spending, cut taxes, and cut the red tape.

Thanks for writing.

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Karsten Torch

2:03 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

And I agree. The voters are starting to rebel, which is where the Tea Party came from. Or, I guess, more accurately is why they have any power. They are what the GOP SHOULD be. Unfortunately, I find a huge disconnect between the GOP and Republicans, although the terms are really synonomous.

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Good Grief Y'all

6:08 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Karsten, dream on little dreamer. The TP isn't so popular any more. By 2014 they'll make barely a whimper. The GOP is a nickname for the Republican Party - Grand Old Party (gag).

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R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"

7:50 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

GGY
You may just be surprised with what happens concerning the tea party as you call it …

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Good Grief Y'all

2:31 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

R, the Tea Party will be the most surprised as those folks are not only obstructionists, but they are delusional about their popularity, and they act as an albatross hanging from the necks of Boehner and McConnell. And, it is not my name or term for them - it is theirs, and they seem to like it. So, what is your point about their name? Karsten introduced the Tea Party into this thread, not me. Didn't you notice?

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R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"

3:12 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

Again I politely contest your assessment, the leaders you refer to are the real embarrassment hanging around the peoples' neck at this point.

ANYONE can fill a position of LEADERSHIP by surrendering as a first response with or without a crying towel, that is until they RUN out of things to surrender. "Compromise" is made of both GIVE and TAKE - some to this point have been all give, while others are all take and this course cannot hold...

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Good Grief Y'all

3:24 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

R, I can't believe we agree on something. I concur, except I didn't give an assessment of Boehner and McConnell. They are indeed an embarrassment to their constituency, their party, their Congressional houses. Maybe, more accurately, they and the Tea Party are mutual in their albatross state. Oh, except for the part about their surrendering or compromising on anything as neither of them have. I disagree with you on that point. I do appreciate your good manners, so thanks for that!

Arthur Christopher Schaper

1:54 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

To Rebecca McCarthy:

9:10 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

"To date, seven African Americans have served in the United States Senate. In 1870, Hiram Revels of Mississippi became the first African American senator . . ."

Your comment points out once again that the GOP is on the "right side" of history when it comes to Civil Rights.

Thanks for your information.

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Harriet Bradley

5:59 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Dear Mr. Arthur,
My name is Rev. Harriet Bradley. I am a Christian, minister, African-American and an advocate for Women's issues in the workplace. I am a Board Member with 9to5 National Working Women. We advocate for women's rights in the workplace. Being part of this organization has put me in the political and legislative arena. I have to face both Democrats and Republicans when I go before legislative hearings or visit certain politicians. I remember last year when I testified before the Industrial Relations Committee under the Gold Dome, the Republicans seemed to have a "superior" attitude. Because I know who I am as a Christian and an American I boldly went before them. You are correct that in the past the Republican Party did advocate for issues that helped African Americans. What General Powell says is very correct. I believe when he worked in the Bush Administration, he experienced it first hand. Many of the policies today that the Republicans oppose, directly affect African-Americans. Many of the issues that we at 9to5 advocate for, Republicans are usually against. It was easy to see from watching the convention that the majority of the Republican Party was white. I have a cousin that is a registered Republican, yet she had a hard time supporting what the Republican had to present. I believe the Republican Party is taking a hard look because if they don't, they will experience minorities staying away because the party has nothing to offer them.

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Good Grief Y'all

6:11 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Nothing speaks as strongly as personal experience.

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John B

6:50 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I'll assume that the good minister does need a white liberal such as you GGY to legitimize or validate her experience. How condescending and in fact extremely racist. Who exactly anointed you? What a phony.

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Good Grief Y'all

7:21 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Hello, Jerk B. Who appointed you judge of anyone? Nothing I said was condescending or racist. I think you're emitting your own bias.

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

8:22 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

"I believe the Republican Party is taking a hard look because if they don't, they will experience minorities staying away because the party has nothing to offer them."

With double-digit uenmployment for African-Americans, twice the national average, and with 50% of black youth unable to find a job. it would appear that President Obama and the Democratic Party do not have much to offer African-Americans.

Please visit the following YouTube clips, where you will find an extensive archive of black men and women, then and now, who associated with the Republican Party.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvw3l5r7NQU&playnext=1&list=PLQ1DlCIouNCCnWwtJq8G1xP9LrELAhB_j&feature=results_main

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Good Grief Y'all

6:47 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

And yet, they still support him. Perhaps they realize that he is doing what he can, and that Congress and the Republican voters must do better because they can but won't.

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John B

8:54 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

Resorting to name calling GGY? You hurt my feelings.....I'm telling the PATCH on you...waaaahhhhhh...............

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Racer X

9:07 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

JB- Careful, you'll overload her micro-chip and she will have to be programmed all over again.

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John B

9:09 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

Anything would be an upgrade to the current software version..........

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Good Grief Y'all

2:44 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

Name calling? Why that must have been a typo, JB. :D

Good Grief Y'all

6:06 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Seven is not enough to celebrate and congratulate. 100 senators serving 6 yr terms. That's rather pitiful. Three of them were Democrats. Of the seven, 2 black Republicans senators served during Reconstruction Era. I don't think that counts for much. Back then Senators weren't elected by the people, but by state legislatures.

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

6:44 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Ms. Bradley, I respond to the following:

"The Republicans seemed to have a superior attitude."

I learned one great lesson from one lady:

"I've got my respect."

No one, no matter what their "attitude", can diminish one's respect before God:

"As He [Jesus] is, so are we in this world." (1 John 4: 17)

It's not about rights, but about righteousness, and that is a gift which He gives to al who are willing to receive (Romans 5: 17)

One's "experience" with one group of legislators cannot define all of the Republicans all over the country, or in Congress.

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Harriet Bradley

8:22 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Mr. Arthur,
That is correct. Because of who I am in Christ that what gives me the boldness. I am who I am because of Jesus Christ. You are right I can't speak for all Repubicans. I can only say what I experienced. I have met some very nice people in the political arena. I was only giving an example. I have been on the local, state and federal level. They have never been disrespectful. I learned that no matter what party that many of these politicians have made tremendous sacrifices and love this country very much. In the political arena, I have only seen respect even when we disagree. It has been an awesome experience for me. I am glad the Lord trust me in this arena. Sincerely REv. Harriet Bradley

Arthur Christopher Schaper

6:48 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Ms. Bradley, I also respond to the following:

"Many of the policies today that the Republicans oppose, directly affect African-Americans."

What are those policies, Ms. Bradley?

Do you claim to speak for all African-Americans? I believe that such an assumption is unsubstantiated, and the stance of speaking for all people of one color is part of the problem with "race issues".

A man is far more than the color of his or her skin. Too many activists today are taking apart Martin Luther King's Speech. Not the color of the skin, but the content of the character (which we can all receive through Christ, not through the state, nor through people) makes all the difference.

Mr. Powell's blanket assertions were wrong because they do not measure up to the full substance of the truth, following the record both then and now.

Once again: I provided facts, values, and a record. I did not diminish the man, but I judge the comments which he has made and the values which he has chosen.

Thanks for writing.

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Harriet Bradley

8:51 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I wrote a response under my FB but I don't see it. I will see if it post before I write again. I can say this because I am African American, other African Americans talk freely to me. Many have told me that they don't trust the Republican Party. They say that the Republican Party is for rich White People. Many have been taught since they were born to NEVER vote Republican. I am repeating what I have been told!! One issue - My parents worked and retired from General Motors. With the help of unions, my parents made a GREAT salary which caused them to not only provide the basics but I was able to have the extras. At the age of 16, I was an exchange student to Sweden with Youth for Understanding. My parents had the money to do that for me. I saw an article written in the New York Times by Gov Romney in 2008 where he wanted to reduce the salaries of the autoworkers. My parents definitely didn't support the Republicans. I am from Michigan. My family and friends were definitely blessed that the automobile industry was saved. Their jobs were saved.

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R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"

7:55 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

"TAUGHT NEVER to vote for a party" seems to run counter to voting the CHARACTER of an individual but that’s OK - some must have missed that concept along the way ...

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Good Grief Y'all

2:46 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

R, voting for character and his choice for POTUS regardless of his party affiliation is exactly the beef that Arthur Christopher Schaper presents against Gen. Powell. What was it Romney said, "what's sauce for the goose . . . " or some nonsense like that.

Arthur Christopher Schaper

9:02 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Ms. Bradley:

Romney wanted to reduce the salaires of executives and give the workers more say in the company.

President Obama lied when he claimed that Romney just wanted the auto industry to go bankrupt and close up shop. In truth, Romney pressed for a structured bankruptcy which would do away with the mismanagement of the company and make it a viable and profitable company again.

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

9:03 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Some quotes from the Romney editorial:

"Without that bailout, Detroit will need to drastically restructure itself. With it, the automakers will stay the course — the suicidal course of declining market shares, insurmountable labor and retiree burdens, technology atrophy, product inferiority and never-ending job losses. Detroit needs a turnaround, not a check."

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

9:06 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

More from Romney's editorial:

"Second, management as is must go. New faces should be recruited from unrelated industries — from companies widely respected for excellence in marketing, innovation, creativity and labor relations.

"The new management must work with labor leaders to see that the enmity between labor and management comes to an end. This division is a holdover from the early years of the last century, when unions brought workers job security and better wages and benefits. But as Walter Reuther, the former head of the United Automobile Workers, said to my father, “Getting more and more pay for less and less work is a dead-end street.”"

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html?_r=0

In no way was Romney a vulture capitalist who wanted to drive Detroit into the dirt.

David Letterman was the only celebrity who held Obama accountable for misconstruing Romney's editorial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2HKxepfISY

Thank you for your time. (John 8: 32)

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Tammy Osier

9:56 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

As a Christian, I cannot support a party that promotes partial birth abortion (up to nine months with no medical reason but convenience - which I believe God will judge because it's innocent life), among other things, dependence on government which takes away initiative etc...
As far as African Americans, the people I know preach the freedom of finding out for oneself, rather than being told something about others that may or may not be true. Read Thomas Sowell, larry Elder, Armstrong Williams. Men truely qualified to speak. They have lived through hard times, but refused to be brought down by a victimization attitude. Senator tim Scott is giving liberals a headache because he's conservative and black. So what? It's what he believes! Talk about injecting race! With MLK day coming up, I think it's imperative for people to examine the people they look up to. Do they blame others and live in the past, or judge a man by his character and actions? I see too many using a persons race to gain political power and I thing that Dr. King would be ashamed at what he would see today. Listen to his grown children and what they have to say. They are qualified to speak as well. I am a minority in my church and the folks I hang with are conservative and Christian first based on their beliefs. They go beyond party and race. They live the dream as I believe it was originally preached.

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

3:43 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

Tammy:

More people need to shed light on the extreme abortion plank of the Democratic Party. They condone abortion at any time on the public's dime.

That's just wrong.

I have spoken with many Democrats who do not hold so extreme a position on abortion. Even Joy Behar of "The View" candidly admitted that she does not like abortion, and she definitely does not support partial-birth or third-trimester termination of the baby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDrnKlFC63s

(between 2: 00 and 5: 30)

Tammy Osier

10:00 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

ACS and Ed Varn. My thoughts exactly. When people talk about the republican party and race, it kills me that no one notices that Republicans hire based on that impressive resume - not quotas for unqualified people. Some of the most trusted people in the world are minorities that worked in the republican party.
Oh, and ACS, didn't Romney say that Chrysler would send Jeep jobs to China? Well, it happened, although the media called it a lie. Funny that.

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Amy Jellicoe

10:05 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

We need a common enemy to unite us.

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Racer X

7:55 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

That's called war. Not what we need. What we need is a common friend to lead us, someone who will uphold and respect our Constitution while helping those who really need it.

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Good Grief Y'all

2:58 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

And, that's exactly why President Obama was re-elected :D

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

3:46 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

Not a common enemy, but mutual agreements on limited goverment, local control, individual liberty.

President Obama has been a divider. Reagan was a uniter, and a 2016 GOP candidate will do the same.

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Good Grief Y'all

5:23 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

President Obama is not a divider. It's the people who hate that a black man, a Democrat was ever elected once, and twice, why that's just the end of their world. It started with McCain's ill-chosen running mate who fanned the flames then and still, though now she's just a Fox-paid big mouth. And you've got Donald Trump and Orly Taitz and the other birthers, then the Gov of Arizona prominently disrespecting the President. It's people like that Mr. Arthur, who are the dividers. There's where the shame lies.

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Karsten Torch

5:59 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

Holy crap, did you really just pull the race card out on us? Seriously? So I don't like Al Gore because he's black? Oh, that's right, he's not. You know, it IS possible that we just don't like his policies. He's the one that claimed the Republicans were going to have to get on the bus with his side, but we'd have to sit in the back. Yep, very much the 'bring everybody together' guy. What crap....

Oh, and what's funny is I've never heard anybody really come up with anything specific negative about Sarah Palin. Oh, let's see - she balanced the budget in Alaska, resulting in citizens actually getting refunds. She sold off the governor's jet, because it was extravagant. She lived in her own home rather than the nicer governor's mansion. Yeah, I just don't know what's wrong with that woman.

You guys just couldn't stand the thought of a woman in the #2 position, possibly the top seat in the country in another couple of years. That had to be it.

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Good Grief Y'all

7:03 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

It's not a race card (we need to add that phrase to the list of words that should disappear) if it is true. There is plenty of evidence of that. Much of it by elected Republicans who did not call out others in their party who were more blatant. Sarah Palin was then and is now a money ____. If you never heard anything bad (true that there was much bad) about her, it's because your ears weren't functioning while your eyes were popping out of your head. My own brother, a very well educated Republican, said it didn't matter about her many negatives because she was hot. He's not the only one I have heard make that ridiculous comment. She was and is a dangerous political idiot. Thank you John McCain. He'll go to his Maker not being able to admit how badly he screwed up and inflicted great damage to his country. Save your fake outrage for a more worthy subject.

You have just validated with the SP admiration what I was beginning to suspect.

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R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"

7:59 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

You mean that it IS possible to speak to people WITHOUT a teleprompter? BRAVO!

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

12:02 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

Karsten Torch
5:59 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013 ---

"Holy crap, did you really just pull the race card out on us? Seriously? So I don't like Al Gore because he's black? Oh, that's right, he's not. You know, it IS possible that we just don't like his policies. He's the one that claimed the Republicans were going to have to get on the bus with his side, but we'd have to sit in the back. Yep, very much the 'bring everybody together' guy. What crap...."

Keep Torching to torturous race-bating, Karsten! No one has the right to scream "racism" and play victim anymore.

Thanks again for your comments!

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Good Grief Y'all

1:21 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

R, all presidents have used teleprompters since their availability to them. It is so much better than seeing someone reading note cards - badly. GWB should have stuck to his more than he did and not ad libbed so much - strategery. Romney used them, too.

That's an old, invalid slam. It's what is written on the teleprompter that matters. Do you think presidents and public leaders should memorize every speech, which would entail a lot of rehearsing? What a colossal waste of time. If this president did that you guys would accuse him of narcissism even more than you already do.

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Good Grief Y'all

2:15 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

They do if they are victims, Art.

Tammy Osier

10:24 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Like what Amy? You know, that always works. I wonder what it will take. I'm really frustrated with party and politics and if we could go on ideals alone, I believe we'd find common ground. There were some interviews done stating policies alone - not revealing which party it was from. Most who proclaimed their allegience to the democratic party were surprised, after agreeing that the policies put forth, that what they agreed to were conservative ideals. So, why vote democrat? Because somebody told you to. But yet, they found more agreement with conservatives.
We need to cut salaries and have term limits. make politicians run because they want to do some good rather than the lucrative career they'll get out of the deal (which is what its become). Common ground? We need common men back in leadership.

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Michael k

1:21 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

Colin Powell's remark was "There is a dark vein of intolerance in some parts of the party. They still look down minorities."

Arthur Christopher Schaper gives a brief history of the Republican party's support of minorities that for most part peter out in the early 1970s and in the opinion of Colin Powell have disappeared in the subsequent 40 years.

History is interesting but Mr. Schaper's premise is flawed. The fact that Republicans supported and were supported by minorities 30-40 years ago doesn't have any bearing on the Republican party of today, in the opinion of many including Colin Powell.

30 years ago all of eastern Europe was behind the iron curtain. Japan was an economic juggernaut. People were listening to music by Boy George. That doesn't mean we it has any relevance to today.

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

1:59 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

"Brief History": That was not the case at all. I touched on Reconstruction, the Early 1900's, after World War I, after World War II, the 1960's, and then there was Ronald Reagan who took down Carter in 1980 with an impressive landslide then swept 49 states in 1984. It was not just the "white vote" that helped Reagan win.

Please also visit:

http://www.thefrontpageonline.com/articles1-12194/MainStreetConservatismNotWallStreetIsWhatRepublicansAreAbout

http://www.thefrontpageonline.com/articles1-12163/ABushelofPlumGOPIdeasifOnlyDemsWillTuneanEar

For More information.

Colin Powell misrepresented the Republican Party with his invidious remarks. Republicans have assumed too often that people know their history. Republicans have not reached out enough.

I am one of many who is changing this false perception of bigotry and intolerance being unjustly invested in the Republican Party.

Thanks for writing.

Racer X

8:51 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

The race card is BS anymore. This card is tattered, faded, torn and smells bad. Time to toss it in the trash can and move forward with personal responsibility for everyone.
No one deserves respect because of the color of his/her skin. Respect can only be garnered through an individuals actions.
The Republican party is just as flawed as the Democratic party. The 15% at either end of the spectrum continue to divide the 70% of us who are in the middle, liberal and conservative, that can actually agree on many things.
To be slightly left or slightly right is not to be Democrat or Republican but both parties play the blame game with issues like gun control and abortion to keep the majority (those in the middle who normally get along) divided.
To participate in that is to support it. C'mon folks, wake up, turn off your TV and stop getting distracted from what our country is becoming.
We are in trouble folks, real trouble.

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John B

9:17 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

X-...Yes it's old and tired but surely hasn't run its course and probably never will at least not in our lifetime. You can't disagree with the president without race being thrown in there....as witnessed by comments on this forum. It's the easy button for many including white liberals who seem to think that minorities need validation from them for whatever plight they may be facing. Condescending if you ask me.

Arthur Christopher Schaper

2:02 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

The term "Minority" in itself can become very condescending.

I am now working with grassroots community organizers, and we refuse to identify people merely by the color of their skin. We are interested in their cares, their concerns, and their character, as well.

The GOP message is not the problem, the policies are not the problem, and neither is wealth, profit, or free markets. The problem is a "1%" party elite (Democrats and Republicans) that wants Big Business and Big Government instead of Free Markets, and the vast majority of Republicans are getting tired of this dissonance from the top.

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Good Grief Y'all

2:42 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

Watch out there, Art. You don't want the "community organizer" label. You know, in case you ever run for the presidency.

LQ Short

2:36 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

He said SOME PARTS of the party, right? Hit dogs always holler and it doesn't always sound like a cheerful welcoming bark.

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Tammy Osier

1:02 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

So sick of the race card. I think it's insulting and makes those who use it look ignorant. Hard to take seriously anything they say when they sound like a schoolyard kid screaming at other kids because they don't know how to play with others. White people put him in the office for the purpose of thinking he might actually do that very thing. Seriously, try something new. At that point, a man become judged by what he DOES, not who he is. Actually, when it comes to Congress, it's not always republicans obstructing, but many democrats as well (they judge their votes based on policy-not party). But party only people won't acknowlege them since it will disprove their racism theories.
Many times, all (yes, black and white) have been disappointed. Maybe obama didn't deliberately do it, but the democrat party has divided on race to the point of ad nauseum. I will list them if you need proof, but it will be embarrassing for you.

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John B

3:09 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

It's even more ignorant when the race card is thrown out there by whites.....

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Good Grief Y'all

3:11 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

Tammy, I am sick of the phrase "race card". That is most often used as a deflection from reality. Because, the reality is, whether we admit it or continue to deny it, racism is alive and kicking in these United States, especially in the South. My personal perspective from this article and some of the comments is the inference that Gen. Powell voted FOR President Obama because they're of the same race, and that Gen. Powell renounced his party loyalty for race loyalty. That reeks of racism to me. I don't know if others see that, but it is highly likely.

White people didn't put President Obama in office because of his race and their hope that he would improve race relations - isn't that analysis, in and of itself, racism? - but because they saw him as the best candidate. After all, they took into consideration who the opposition was, both times.

I, too, can cite many ugly racist comments heard from friends, family, acquaintances, co-workers and colleagues - people who are mostly intelligent and "Christian". Some of the vilest of names have I heard the President called by people whom I love. My consolation is that I didn't raise them. The only thing I will say as an example, and I know you have heard this, too, is that it is common lingo to refer to all black people as Democrats. I never heard that usage until 2007. Wonder why?

It is the height of arrogance to claim to know the minds and feelings of someone else - including on matters of race.

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Good Grief Y'all

3:15 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

So, JB, whites (Caucasians) aren't a race? Have no right to an opinion on race? Any race? That's what is ignorant.

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John B

8:16 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

Not when it's not your race GGY......The minorities I know don't want you pandering to or for them...they are proud and despise people like you...stop patting yourself on the back.....

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Good Grief Y'all

8:30 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013

JB, you continue to judge me. The shame for that is on you. I've never pandered a day in my life. Unlike you, what I say and write here is sincere AND truthful. You, mister, cannot make that claim.

Tammy Osier

1:30 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

ACS - condescending is an apt word.

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Tammy Osier

3:25 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

Not letting you get away with that GGy - Here are your own words:
"It's the people who hate that a black man, a Democrat was ever elected once, and twice, why that's just the end of their world."
My point is that, like you said, people of all races voted for him based on what they thought he could do, not the color of his skin. So, yes, white people were just as responsible for putting him into office as people of color were. So, to use your words, are those same people now hating on him because he's black? Can't have it both ways. That dog won't hunt. That is totally a race card when you ACCUSE people (like you can read their minds) of hating someone. You've really GOT to be kidding. I respect most of what you say and enjoy conversing with you, but it does throw doubts into my thoughts when I read statements like that.
I've always known that Powell's leanings were more towards social conservativism so am not surprised that he would vote the way he does. But, I do agree with others that the republican party has done a lot for him, and would think that he'd show loyalty there. But then, it shows a lot of respect for the man that Bush selected him on the merits of his resume knowing that his political leanings might not completely jibe with his. That's how he feels, but the poster has every right to disagree with him. that's what this post was about in the beginning.

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Good Grief Y'all

3:47 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

Maybe you're just trying to use colorful (pun fully intended) phrasing, Tammy, but it is not up to you to let me do anything. With that out of the way:

Yes, I certainly did say that. Please note that besides the word "black", I prefaced it with "It's the people who hate . . . " I did not say all people who voted for someone other than President Obama or who voted at all - many who fuss didn't vote - cast their vote because of hate for his race. I never said everyone must accept and like him. That's one's personal freedom to vote as they want. But a lot of them (campaigners and R voters) did use it against him in their quest to elect the other guy; people who claimed to be unbiased. There is absolutely no denying that he is hated because of his color by many. Further, instead of saying "just as responsible for putting him in office", my wording would be "take credit for" because I and others who voted for him are very glad to have done so. Not everyone, but many. Some folks are fickle if they can't get instant gratification. And, no, I would say the people who voted for him are not "hating on him because he's black" - that's rather absurd. The haters did not vote for him, I'm pretty sure of that. It is not I who is trying to have it both ways.

That hating thing - it's reality, not an accusation. I know lots of haters of the President, personally. Said that. And, it was painful. No mind reading required.

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Good Grief Y'all

4:02 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

Also, Tammy, the General has done more for the Republican Party than it has done for him. Sorry, I disagree with you on that, too.

I would ask you to take into account the reason for my comment was that the author claims it is the President who is the divider. As is my right, I took exception to that and commented honestly on it. It is the haters against the black man, and some of them may have other reasons added to that, who have done the dividing. That was my point. I could cut and paste documentation all day and into the night to support that. But, let me just give you a couple of examples which I had on my mind when I wrote my comment. During the campaign, John Sununu - Romney campaign surrogate and former NH gov. - said that during the first debate the President was "lazy". That's very offensive - ask some of your black friends, if you think they can be completely open with you and don't feel that they must stick to polite talk.

The most offensive comment came from the less than honorable half-term former governor of Alaska, the one and thank God! only Sarah Palin with her comment that the President was "shuckin' and jivin' "? Pray tell, what black person have you ever heard use that phrase about another African American? Ask 'em!

The General cited those very two instances on MTP.

I come in peace and I leave in peace.

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R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"

11:08 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

You didn't REALLY go there over "shuckin' and jivin' " did you? With that I must accept your moniker Good GRIEF!!

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R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"

11:12 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

BUT the PRES is a divider simple fact.

He dislikes those who cling to their GOD and guns or did we miss that because he DIDN'T build it?

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Good Grief Y'all

8:37 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013

No, R, Sarah Palin went there. General Powell took exception to it. I do, too. She went there deliberately - it was no gaffe.

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Good Grief Y'all

8:51 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013

No, again, R. The President is not the divider. There is plenty of documentation on video, internet, in print - including in this blog and comment thread - giving proof of the dividers.

The author himself is divisive. He introduced race baiting into the discussion in his article - his words, although he misspelled. He is making that accusation because he wrongly assumes it validates his opinion and "facts", and as a not-so-subtle warning that no one dare introduce comments to the contrary and risk being declared racist. He and a few of the commenters have called my posts condescending, phony, pandering and racist. The condescension and racist comments fit into the author's and his supporters' view that General Powell abandoned party loyalty in favor of race loyalty. They're looking down on him for making his own independent voting choices. In the process, the author and his supporters, have shown that they are the ones with condescending, racist overtones in their words.

John B's comments attacking me as phony and pandering are untrue, judgmental and worth nothing except to document his continued venom and his wish to take away my 1st Amendment rights.

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John B

8:56 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013

GGY...really? The last thing I want to do is take away your 1st amendment right. Please keep posting as you add daily entertainment...and it's free. Keep it phony as always...

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Good Grief Y'all

10:23 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013

Yes, JB, really. You do, and that's why you continue to attack whatever comment I make in a personal and insulting way. You hope to run me off. You don't like what I have to say, ever, or the way I say it. Your problem, not mine.

Good Grief Y'all

8:59 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013

The author and his back-up supporters on this thread are living, local proof of the Republican playbook methods. They state their opinions, make their accusations, dare others to differ at the risk of character assassination, then turn around and point their own guilty fingers at all who disagree. They do their dirty deeds, then accuse others of those acts.

I have seen this movie before. It was titled "The Republican Campaign for the Presidency, 2012". It lost badly in all categories, most importantly - the election.

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John B

9:05 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013

GGY:
It's Sunday at 9:00 a.m. It's going to be a lovely day. I'm ready to do my P90X Kenpo and then settle in for some football. Go Falcons! I hope you enjoy your Sunday. It's ok to walk away from the computer sometimes. Have a great day.

Good Grief Y'all

10:22 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013

I always enjoy my Sundays and every other day. You should take your own advice.

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Tammy Osier

3:43 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013

I've got no problem pointing out those in my party that are less than stellar, but I do have a problem when you point them out to the exclusion of your own partie's pecadillos. Here's the short list:
Could it possibly be that they hate his policies? But you really can't point any fingers at palin when you have all the racist comments made by democrats against black republicans (can't even begin with all that Joe biden can take credit for) such as: The ugly, nasty pictures of Condi Rice (one has a caption, "I'm fighting for whitey) or the comments about her shining the massuh’s shoes, Mike Wallace's comments about watermelons and tacos, Harry Belefonte and Spike Lee (can't even mention many of them on this family page), Lyndon B. Johnson (can't mention here), Donna Brazille - I won't let these white boys win this election, Louis Farrakan (it would take pages), California State Senator Diane Watson. So much that wasn't even fit to print! The worst of it is that they are given a pass. Might divide a few people if you ask me. I mean, I could go on and on and on... But there’s no reasoning with you. So, I will move on.

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Good Grief Y'all

7:17 am on Monday, January 21, 2013

Tammy, I didn't watch and read every comment made by everyone who had something to say in the recent long election season and decades past. My comments were relative to the blog about Gen. Powell and the examples he cited. That's pretty straight forward. I didn't dig up past ghosts. I based my posts on the immediate conversation. The comments by the people Gen. Powell mentioned (he didn't even call them out by name, just their words) were made by the people who were prominently quoted and most in the news headlines. I don't dwell on everything said. There are often apologies after such comments, some genuine, some CYA.

Like others, you can't bring me around to your way of thinking, so you choose to dismiss me. No one can have a conversation using those parameters. Where's the polite "we must agree to disagree"? Have a nice trip.

Good Grief Y'all

7:21 am on Monday, January 21, 2013

Tammy, where was your and others' condemnation of those two examples? I don't think I missed them. That was strictly rhetorical.

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Brian Crawford

9:58 am on Monday, January 21, 2013

Sometimes the truth hurts and the writer seems to be willfully ignoring the fact that minorities have overwhelmingly rejected the current Republican Party platform. He also leaves out a rather large chunk of history including the Dixiecrats split with the Democratic party over civil rights in the 50s and 60s and the GOP's ensuing "Southern Strategy" to win over these defectors by playing to their racist fears and prejudices. The success of this strategy has been clear.

Powell spoke the truth. His party would be wise to pay attention.

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Mr. B

10:07 am on Monday, January 21, 2013

You seem to be forgetting that it was the Republican party that ended slavery against the strong opposition of Democrats. The Democrats have continued to enslave the black Americans through entitlements. Are you and General Powell suggesting the Republicans drop their opposition to slavery and join the Democrats in enslaving American citizens?

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Brian Crawford

1:52 pm on Monday, January 21, 2013

I think what we are suggesting is that there is no resemblance of the party of Lincoln in today's Republican party.

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Mr. B

4:36 pm on Monday, January 21, 2013

And what I'm suggesting is there is no difference in the Democratic party of Lincoln's day. To paraphrase a great writer...Slavery by any other name still stinks.

Arthur Christopher Schaper

8:09 pm on Monday, January 21, 2013

Mr. B,

You get an "A" from me.

Democratic Party leaders have lied to their members. Blacks are conservative, but media bombardment has twisted the narrative. For too long, Republicans have rested solely on logic and rational argument alone to make their case, while Democrats use emotion and rhetoric and "win".

Often times, the GOP leaders have assumed that most people already understand that free markets make free people, and that more government means more dependence. Republicans have the facts and the law, but now they need to start pounding the table.

Dems create welfare slaves, not welfare queens, and they will not let urban youth choose the schools that they want to go to. Yes, indeed, "slavery by another name."

Wasn’t it Joe “Widen-His-Mouth-to-Put-His-Foot-in” Biden who said “Chains, y’all!”

Not to be crude, but the Democratic "1%" are the "Simon LeGree" of our times.

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