Despite two studies, warnings from consultants, and two examples of failed airports, proponents of Briscoe Field expansion continue to attempt to mislead and manipulate Gwinnett citizens.
The viability of Briscoe Field as a regional airport was examined in both the City of Atlanta (Hartsfield) and the Gwinnett BOC (IMG studies). These two reports both cast serious doubts on the viability of converting Briscoe Field from a general aviation airport to a regional airport. Concerns included the cost (up to $2.2 billion), environmental, airspace management, expansion limitations (due to acreage), and the instability of the airline industry. In addition C4BG has concerns about traffic congestion, Gwinnett government guaranty of construction bonds, and the overall impact on our quality of life.
MidAmerica Airport, located 30 miles from St Louis International Airport, opened for schedule passenger service in 1997. At that time politicians said they were investing $320 million of taxpayer funds in the community’s future. Today everyone realizes they wasted $320 million and perhaps gambled the community’s future away. As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words, watch the video and decide for yourself how you would like Gwinnett to proceed.
Branson Mo. Airport completed construction in 2009, expecting 1.5 million passengers per year. The county government backed construction of the privately owned airport with $115 million in taxpayer development bonds. Now the largest private investor, CitiGroup, is threatening foreclosure as the airport continues to operate under a forbearance agreement. Foreclosure or bankruptcy seems highly likely since the private operator has had little success expanding the number of airlines servicing the airport. The airport serviced 92,000 passengers in 2010, far fewer that the 1.5 million forecast when the airport was proposed.
Aside from these two examples, we have to look at the stability of the airline industry. Over the past five years airlines have been consolidating through mergers (Delta/Northwest, Southwest/Airtran), regional airlines (ATA, Eos, Sun Country, Aloha) have ceased operations, the remaining nine airlines have grounded smaller regional jets, and continue to reduce the number of flights operated. Combine this with the fact that airlines don’t sign long-term contracts to operate out of airports, other than their major hubs.
When considering all these facts most reasonable people conclude expanding Briscoe Field is too great a risk for our community and would never deliver the results projected by proponents.
North Georgia Weather
5:09 pm on Friday, September 23, 2011
Great Jim! I can't understand why people can't see the facts when they're right in front of them .
And when history shows only a 5% success rate for these types of projects, you would think that might be enough of a reason t not do it just on it's own merit.
Jennifer Tompkins
11:51 am on Monday, September 26, 2011
5%? Could you please direct me to where you found that information?
North Georgia Weather
12:20 pm on Monday, September 26, 2011
I'm trying to locate it, Jim might help me out. I think it was 20 attempts and only one was working and then not well. Here's several links:
http://www.progressivestates.org/news/dispatch/privatization-during-economic-downturn-still-inefficient-and-problematic
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=comm&id=news/PRIVAT032609.xml
Tim Montgomery
6:42 pm on Friday, September 23, 2011
Logic would dictate that "if"a commercial airport needs to be built to serve the north metro area that airport should be located up I-85 between Braselton and Jefferson. When You see Government officials fighting for a financially questionable project look at who is leaving office soon and follow the money. As far as Dacula is concerned I can't see Brisco Field being expandable enough to be successful and thus would be another money pit like the stadium project. I would not support it.
Tim Montgomery, DVM
Councilman
City of Dacula
Bev Lougher
11:39 am on Saturday, September 24, 2011
At the meeting with IMG, the commissioners seemed to be open to some common sense for a change. IMG suggested that privatization and commercialization be pursued separately with public to private the goal at this time. They stated the two had not been pursued together ever and Mr. Beaudreau said - "There is always a first time." Unbelievable! IMG was hired by the county for their expertise in this area and they are working to protect the interests of the county, If the Board of Commissioners do not listen to their own consultants and pursue their own agenda, then we, the citizens of this county should take action to stop this abuse of power.
terrance R. Brand
6:20 pm on Saturday, September 24, 2011
The GBOC members who are for this expansion must have some real incentive to do so. To continue to advocate for expansion in spite of the information on hand is not rational. But, after all, it is so easy to spend someone else's money. Perhaps they need some professional medical help. Further, I believe that the voters need to become more involved. We need to take charge of this issue before our scarce disposable income is flushed down the airport privy. The best way to handle the airport problem is to permanently close Briscoe and rezone the land for other uses. When is the next meeting?
edward cubits
5:05 pm on Sunday, September 25, 2011
If a private company will invested their own $100 million to build a terminal and improve the runway and start scheduled flights, why not let them try. It is their money to risk. Why are these ground up airports on the tax payer's backs contextual for Briscoe. Lawrenceville is on a downhill slide and we need the jobs and economic development.
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
12:32 am on Monday, September 26, 2011
ED,
Again this jobs claim is bogus if you review the meeting notes from the 9/20/11 meeting. Gwinnett already has a staduim on its back so we have no more play money. If you are one of the resume submitters for Propeller, I'm sorry but you have been had. At least you didn't give them your banking info yet, did you? If there is one set of business related entities or LLCs that shouldn't be allowed to move forward - this group is it. I personally wouldn't let them pick up my weekly trash.
edward cubits
7:06 am on Monday, September 26, 2011
With all due respect R, we do agree that the baseball park was a low return on investment and i guess , what they call crony capitalism in Texas. But once again, if you have an airport that presently cost the county money to operate and you lease it to a private company that puts its own $100 Million into, not taxpayer's money and it creates good jobs, then that is a good thing. I understand the knee jerk NIMBYism, but you have Gulfstreams and Lears flying out of there at present. Parts of Gwinnett are in a tailspin, we have lost jobs and housing has plummeted. We are ground zero for the great recession. We need good jobs and an economic engine to attract new businesses.
Susan
11:24 am on Monday, September 26, 2011
I agree. If it's not making profits for the county, give it too a private company and eliminate the burden to the tax payor for it's upkeep. Yes, I applied for a job at Briscoe. After losing a job in the medical field and being out of work 10 months you better believe it. Gwinnett County doesn't need to be in the airlines business. Their are other small airports in the area, Gainesville etc. for the weekend warriors, flying hobby guys. Let's get rid of the upkeep, it's hard enough to maintain the ball park.
Jennifer Tompkins
11:48 am on Monday, September 26, 2011
Right on Susan and Edward. Who is this Jim Reagan guy anyway and what makes him such an expert in the aviation business? Wouldn't be surprised if Delta Air Lines is behind this guy. Its no great secret that they are against this. Heard one of the guys on the Georgia Gang even say that Delta meddling. Big business will stop at nothing to keep a monopoly from being disrupted. Geez its sad that they are manipulating our County.
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
6:16 pm on Monday, September 26, 2011
Jennifer, Ed and Susan,
Since you believe the current operations at Briscoe as it is run today is a “burden to the county”, (Second misnomer behind JOBS! claim) please provide the Budget / Expense backup detail. The taxpayers in Gwinnett have been told continuously that the airfield as it operates today is a “zero sum game”, meaning it pays for itself with NO county burden whatsoever. (It just doesn’t bring in a profit – since it wasn’t designed to) Privatization of a General Aviation model may make sense, but that won’t bring in the quick “high dollars” a small set of folks think are out there.
Now to Commercial Passenger Traffic:
If you can find a firm that will; Invest four BILLION over 10 or 15 years or so while not owning the asset at the end of a contract, Stay independently solvent and provide all the investment of infrastructure at NO cost share with taxpayers, including NO tax incentives or bonds, All the while also returning an increased revenue stream to the county each year. Of course, it will have set aside at the very start, (adjusted upwardly each operational year) a sufficient private performance bond to allow the county to both fund and run passenger operations for 10 years in event of the private operator default while Gwinnett closes the airfield down. In this case, it may be a moot point - because Pigs will Fly.
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
6:45 pm on Monday, September 26, 2011
As to Jim being an expert, have you even looked at the detail he has provided? It’s been independent and verifiable. As long as factual truth is posted, attempting to smear a position because of where the facts MAY come from really doesn’t DISPUTE those facts. There appears to be large number of proponents of commercial passenger traffic that spend FAR more time personally attacking the integrity of opponents, instead of posting factual proofs of the claimed benefits of mass commercial passenger traffic. At the same time, opponents are providing real world locations that demonstrate the position that commercialization is a very risky proposition. The long range viability would ultimately depend on a MARTA link to Hartsfield.
Other posters here may actually live in Gwinnett and would rather it a “residential centric community” and NOT become a forgettable “pass through” location. Coldwell Banker NATIONWIDE ad – they may know a thing or 2 about the subject. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHhOCcb2OTI&NR=1
Gary Fox
9:17 pm on Monday, September 26, 2011
Susan please turn your binoculars around - your looking into them from the wrong end. I am sorry for the masses w/unemployment woes, sincerely I am. Those issues are not going to be magically fixed as it pertains to Brisco . Have you heard back from Propellers re: you resume yet?