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We Can’t Afford Another Debt Limit Increase

David Hancock, 7th District Congressional Candidate, strongly believes that Georgia Voters should "Vote out all incumbents who voted for the $2.4 trillion debt ceiling increase in 2011. We must elect REAL conservatives into office to solve our debt problems NOW!"

Mr. Hancock goes on to say that "Voters across Gwinnett and Forsyth counties are fed up with Washington incumbents who lack the political courage to stand up to the giant spending machine that our government has become. Many people in the 7th district aren't aware that their Congressman, Rob Woodall, voted to dig us $2 trillion deeper into debt when the House approved the largest debt increase in American history."

Not only did the debt limit increase put us on a much weaker financial footing, we are now facing some of the other consequences of the deal, the most destructive of which will be a mandatory $500 billion cut in Defense spending in 2013.  And because we did not address the over-spending problem the US credit rating was downgraded for the first time in history.

Mr. Woodall can give lip service to being a conservative and wishing we had a fair tax, but if the voters lack the courage to stand up to their convictions and agree that spending in Washington has gotten way out of control, the only change in Washington will be more and more debt that future generations of Americans will have to repay. In fact, many are starting to wonder if it even can be repaid. At the rate the economy is going, it's conceivable that the interest rate on our debt could be in the $TRILLIONS in the very near future.

Mr. Woodall believed it was a good idea to increase the debt ceiling last time. Will you be happy if he is re-elected and increases our debt AGAIN?

David Hancock is a candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives in Georgia's 7th Congressional District. More information about Mr. Hancock is available on his website, www.hancock2012.com. You can also send him an e-mail at david@hancock2012.com

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Brian Crawford

12:49 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

So what would you have done Dave? Reneged on our debt? Not paid Social Security benefits? Not paid the military? The debt ceiling is an entirely bogus concept that no other country employs. We owe the money plain and simple. We raise the debt ceiling every time we appropriate money that is not offset by either a budget cut or tax increase. The last thing we need is to elect folks who can't grasp this. The last time we played chicken with the imaginary "debt ceiling" it cost us billions of dollars and our credit rating.

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David Hancock

1:03 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

There was no reason to fail to pay our debt obligations, even without a debt limit increase.

I used to think if we reduce taxes we will reduce spending. The debt limit debate proves that is not the case. The ONLY way to control Congress is to limit the spending - and that is exactly what the debt limit is supposed to do. It is not to just be raised so we can borrow more money.

For the last 20 years the total debt held by the government has hovered around 60% of GDP, but the $13.5 Trillion debt held in 2010 worked out to 92.1% of GDP. Now we have a debt that is more than the entire Gross Domestic Product of the United States. This is like a family with a $100,000 annual income having $110,000 in credit card debt.

So, what to do? If the House was serious, the FIRST thing they would do TODAY is pass H.R.42 - the Full Faith and Credit Act. Here is the entire text of the bill:

“To require that the Government prioritize all obligations on the debt held by the public in the event that the debt limit is reached.”

This would be the best signal we could send to the world. Not only would we show that we would not default but we would prove that we will start to cut spending. We would have to. We need to break the cycle of just borrowing whenever we want new stuff.

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Brian Crawford

5:47 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

The best signal we could send to the world is to end the dysfunction in congress that folks like you promote. Money is so cheap for us to borrow right now that it is simply irresponsible to not put people to work rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure or would you rather wait until we have major power and transportation disruptions?

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C.J.

6:32 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

RE: "This would be the best signal we could send to the world."

The only signal that not raising our debt limit would send to the world is that the you-know-what is about to hit the fan. In other words, hello Great Depression 2.0.

Having a debt-limit at all is insane (and unique to the U.S.). The time to deal with spending issues in when appropriations bills and other spending legislation is passed. Passing appropriations that force us to reach an artificial, arbitrary limit, and then claiming "the debt limit made me do it" is weak tea indeed. If you want to cut Social Security, Medicare, and raise taxes on the middle class (and you do if you support Paul Ryan's budget), then run on those positions rather than hiding behind an arbitrary number that shouldn't even exist.

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R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"

9:28 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

@ Brian

"Money is so cheap for us to borrow right now that it is simply irresponsible"
This may be truest text that you have ever typed.

Soooo
When do we as a country start to reduce spending, after interest rates RISE and the payments balloon???

As to the shovel ready transportation infrastructure improvements, didn't we DO that already too?

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Brian Crawford

9:46 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Government bonds are fixed rate (yield) and fixed term. If someone buys a 10 year bond with a 3% yield that means when the bond expires in 10 years we pay back the principal plus 3%. With rates as low as they are today most bonds have an adjusted for inflation negative yield. This means countries are willing to pay us to hold their money for them. It is stupid not to be borrowing money at those terms, especially considering how many people we could put to work on major infrastructure projects. The net result would be more short term debt, say a trillion or so, but it would be enough to get the economy growing again. The gains in infrastructure would be a huge bonus.

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Brian Crawford

9:51 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

We tried to do shovel ready but the Pubs in congress insisted that a third of the Stimulus be tax breaks. Another big chunk went to revenue sharing programs with the states to save teachers and first responder jobs. Thanks to the GOP, the amount of shovel ready projects that came out of the Stimulus was a pittance of what was really needed.

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William Evelyn Jr.

5:54 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Brian Crawford - you have to ask why money is so cheap right now before bounding off with these absurd assertions. Money is cheap because the Federal Reserve is artificially keeping interest rates low trying to initiate inflation. If interest rates were allowed to adjust to the markets, they would be much higher, precisely because there is so much money in the system.

The debt limit ceiling is a false flag and as David Hancock mentioned the only measure of true functionality is to control the spending. They could raise the debt ceiling limit to $100 trillion, but without controls on spending it just doesn't matter.

Servicing the debt is peanuts, the problem is the size of the debt. Most of the principal on the long term debt doesn't come due until 2031. You can ask your children and grandchildren how they like paying off the debt you allowed to accrue during your lifetime.

Rob Woodall voted to increase the debt ceiling and increase spending. Spending by this Republican house in the past two years has increased $1.9 trillion. If you keep voting for people like Rob Woodall, maybe we can get that to $5.0 trillion in the next two years.

Jim

8:28 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

I agree with Brian and Chris: the debt ceiling is a distraction. The problem is spending. Get spending down and we will not have conversations about this silly debt ceiling. As has been said many times, the time to control spending is not when you write the check for your credit card bill (debt ceiling), rather the time to control spending is when you get your credit card out in the first place (vote to spend more money). I agree that we need less government, but the main thing we need is intelligent government, and that is totally lacking in Washington right now. unfortunately, your statements don't give me confidence in your ability to do any better.

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Sabrina Smith

8:32 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

David: Thank you for reminding us that congressmen, like Rob Woodall, who tell constituents that they are working hard to cut spending, and then vote to increase the debt ceiling by $2.4 TRILLION, should be voted out of office. Our skyrocketing debt is a national disgrace and we need to elect leaders who are willing to make honest decisions about spending priorities. I will be voting for you and encourage others who are serious about finally cutting spending to do the same.

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William Evelyn Jr.

5:58 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Sabrina - Not only did Woodall vote to increase that debt limit, that bill also gave Obama the power to hike the debt ceiling on his own. Woodall also voted for a huge $1.4 billion transportation Bill and he voted for NDAA allowing for indefinite detention of American citizens. That is a violation of the 5th Amendment. Woodall has never been in the private sector except as an intern. Rob does not possess the judgement nor the intelligence to be our Congress person.

Sabrina Smith

7:13 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Hi Bill: I, too, have been extremely disappointed in Woodall. During the controversial debate about turning Briscoe into a commercial airport, I asked why a congressman who had pledged to cut wasteful government programs supported a 15 year old FAA program with a 100% failure rate. Woodall’s chief of staff said, “Sabrina, just because a program has not worked in the past does not mean it cannot work in the future.” Is that the philosophy of a congressman who can be trusted to cut government spending? What has Woodall accomplished since he became our congressman? Has he lived up to the campaign promises he made in his first campaign? He has not, so why should we re-elect him to a second term?

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Jimmy Orr

2:50 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Due to the realignmnent of Congressional districts, I am no longer in District 7. If I were, I would be voting for David Hancock. Rob Woodall apparently does not have a clue when it comes to the federal money being thrown at the 900 grant programs and the 2,001 subsidy programs nor the associated cost of the staffs of the Washington bureaucrats who administer said programs. Via e-mail, I asked Congressman Woodall for a list of the grant and subsidy programs and the bureaucracy which administered each. All I got in the way of a reply was a website I could go to which would advise me which grants had been issued within a specific time frame. I already knew this. What I wanted was a listing of the 900 grant programs and the 2,001 subsidy programs via name, rank, and serial number so to speak. It is way past time that our Congress start putting the axe to those grants/subsidies which can and should be eliminated. I wouldn't say Congressman Woodall "ain't" got a clue, but I do not believe he understood the intent of my e-mail. He, in my opinion, is a one track Congressman. I have heard enough about the "Fair Tax." Give David Hancock an opportunity to go to Washington and restore fiscal responsibility by reducing the federal deficit and lowering taxes.

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David Hancock

3:38 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Thank you, Mr. Orr. I have been asked a number of times what I can do in Washington. By myself, not much. But I am counting on candidates all across this nation who have never held office and are committed to dismantling many of the programs, agencies, grants, subsidies and who knows what else to stop the spending and reduce the regulation. Imagine if we wake up the day after the election in November and we have 300 in Congress who have never served before. Who take out their Constitution, open to Article I Section 8 and start reading their job description. Citizens who don’t owe ‘favors’ to anyone in Washington and who want to serve for a few years and then let someone else take over. We could literally change the direction overnight. There is great hope, as you well know, thanks to the genius of the Founding Fathers who set up our great nation.

Brian Crawford

8:50 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

So David, since you're intent on cutting government spending, which in itself is not necessarily a bad thing, what specific programs do you propose cutting that would have a significant impact on our $3.5 trillion dollar budget? Anyone serious about government spending must have a plan regarding the defense budget, Social Security and Medicare. What is your plan to tackle these items that represent the majority of government spending?

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David Hancock

8:08 am on Monday, July 30, 2012

Short answer - cut everything. Reduce the size and scope of the Federal Government. Stop waste, fraud and abuse. Greatly reduce or eliminate agencies like DOE, DOCommerce, NEA, EPA, Fannie May Freddie Mac. Cut federal subsidies - energy, transportation, education. Bring in revenue by starting a new agency with the sole purpose of selling assets like land and unused federal buildings. Have every agency give a budget that includes a 10% cut. Have Congress take a 10% pay cut as well - there are no little spending cuts, just some that are bigger than others - and this will save over $9 million a year. If we can save $100 we should do so. Fix Social Security - divide people into age brackets. Older citizens, no change. Youngest group, private accounts. Maybe some in the middle you give the chance to opt out - the government keeps all the money they have put in but they don't get anything. I am 51 and even with as much as I have paid in if I knew the government wouldn't take any more from me for SS I would gladly walk away from the program. Maybe offer older Americans the chance to receive land instead of SS payments. Thee government certainly owns more land than it should. This is just what comes to mind first...
What ideas do you have? Add those to the list and let's get started.

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Brian Crawford

9:11 am on Monday, July 30, 2012

You really think privatizing Social Security is a good idea? We've just created a generation of folks who's retirement plans were wiped out due to the volatility of private markets and who have negative equity in their homes. What about the defense budget, do we still need a cold war arsenal? And the biggest debt driver by far is Medicare, what's the plan there? Waste, fraud and abuse is a great place to start but Obama's already doing that. You want to cut education? You want to cut the DOE and EPA when one of our biggest challenges over the next few decades is the transition to renewable energy and and maintaining a livable environment where our drinking water doesn't burst into flames. A fire sale of government assets? I also didn't hear you mention taxes. What should we do there?

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William Evelyn Jr.

1:40 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012

Brian Crawford - you have your cause and effect out of whack again. The volatility in the business sector is due specifically to the GOVERNMENT. The federal reserve and the bureaucrats writing regulations. If you get rid of all that, business would run very smoothly, there would be no inflation, and you savings will be worth when you put them in the bank.

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Scott Burns

12:04 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012

You have forgotten the biggest cash hole is the U.S. military machine … why not be a real leader and start your cutting there…?

Michael Edward Williams

10:31 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

Vote against debt ceiling increase? Tell us how you will balance the budget.

Debt ceiling increases are a by product of out of control government spending and used to scare voters.

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David Hancock

8:19 am on Monday, July 30, 2012

Every time the debt limit is reached it is extended. It is time to break the cycle that says we just borrow more money when we don't have enough to pay for the programs we want. All spending originates in the House. Stop the spending and there will be no need to increase the amount of debt. By definition, if you do not borrow any more money then you have a balanced budget. If you are able to actually start lowering the debt limit then you are running a surplus.

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Ed Varn

9:43 am on Monday, July 30, 2012

MEW, WHAT budget? Congressional Dems haven't given us one in years.

Brian Crawford

10:49 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

If you want to campaign on Patch, more power to you, but you need to have some concrete policy proposals instead of the same empty rhetoric the last bunch of no-nothing Tea Party candidates we sent to Washington spouted. That has been a disaster. I'm no fan of Rob Woodall's that's for sure, but so far I don't see you offering much of an alternative.

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David Hancock

8:10 am on Monday, July 30, 2012

You seem to have a lot of answers. Why didn't you run?

Jim Regan

7:26 am on Monday, July 30, 2012

If we continue down the path of deficit spending because it is so cheap to borrow money we will be joining Greece as a failed nation. Government must learn, just as every citizen has to learn to live below their means and to save. A cash based economy is stronger than a credit based economy and much more stable.

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