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Dacula Man Admits Grabbing Teen by Neck During Dispute at McDonald’s

Man also said he told teen he would “break his finger and shove it up his a**.”

A Dacula man was charged with simple battery after a disagreement over the use of a designated parking space turned violent.

Police were called to the Hamilton Mill Road McDonald’s on the morning of Oct. 7 regarding a customer dispute. The officer met first with Lee Cramer, 52, of 954 Fairview Club Circle in Dacula.

Cramer told the officer that he and his wife noticed two young males exit a vehicle that was parked in a spot designated for drive-thru customers only. Cramer explained that he and his wife had been looking for a spot and had passed by that spot since “McDonald’s wants patrons that are going inside to order to park in another stall.”

Once inside, Cramer’s wife reportedly asked the two males if they had failed to notice the sign.

“Cramer said [the juvenile] was very disrespectful so he told him he would ‘break his finger and shove it up his a**,” the officer wrote in the report.

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Cramer and the 16-year-old juvenile continued to argue. Cramer admitted telling the juvenile that he should hit him for being so disrespectful. The juvenile reportedly leaned forward displaying his cheek as an open invitation for Cramer to punch him. The juvenile also allegedly told Cramer to hit him.

“Cramer said that when [the juvenile] leaned forward showing the side of his face, he grabbed him by the neck,” the officer wrote. “Cramer said once he grabbed [the juvenile] he thought that [the juvenile] was not worth it and let him go.”

According to Cramer, the situation “began to deescalate” until the juvenile made an obscene gesture with his middle finger as Cramer left the restaurant. Cramer then walked back inside and asked the juvenile if he was that disrespectful to his father.

A manager intervened and Cramer once again exited the building.

When interviewed by police, the juvenile said Cramer and his wife were calling him names. The juvenile said he was trying to stop any contact with Cramer when Cramer physically assaulted him. The juvenile said when Cramer threatened to hit him, he told him to go ahead and he would call police. At that point, Cramer allegedly grabbed him by the neck and shook him.

A cashier and manager both said they saw Cramer grab the juvenile by the neck and both said the teen did not make any physically threatening moves.

Cramer was booked into the Gwinnett County Jail on a charge of simple battery. He was released later that day on a $1,300 bond.

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Craig Reed October 11, 2012 at 04:11 PM
And then the old geezer said "I'm gonna quarter-pound yer face!" And the young whipper snapper said "I'd like to see you fry!!" So gramps gave him a shake and kicked him in the nuggets. The end.
Mitch October 11, 2012 at 04:32 PM
Don’t forgot the part where a big guy named Mac stepped in and snack wrapped his huge arms around both and broke their mcRibs.
R++ One of the Famous Dacula Crew October 11, 2012 at 05:38 PM
The spork did it, but left no witnesses because it was the last straw...
Dis Interested October 11, 2012 at 06:38 PM
I bet The Dish thinks he/she is real, real smart. And that they like the sound of their own voice better than anyone else's.
Heywood Jablowme October 11, 2012 at 06:47 PM
Seems to me that someone needs to teach their elders how to deal with people in society in a polite way instead of thinking they own the world. Respect is earned, not given.
jon October 11, 2012 at 06:49 PM
"Cramer then walked back inside and asked the juvenile if he was that disrespectful to his father." If my father acted like you, you'd be damn sure I would treat him with disrespect. The -only- thing this..ahem...gentlemen should have done was to alert the staff that someone was parked in the spot. He's not an employee and had absolutely no reason to confront the kid. I'm kind of surprised to see people defending the guy here. Everything that happened was a direct result of HIS actions. All he had to do was tell the staff. Not have a mental break down and assault some kid. Kid's a punk? Guess what, you're a grown adult. Grown adults don't throw tantrums in a fast food restaurant and grab peoples necks. Egotistical fools do.
jon October 11, 2012 at 06:52 PM
Dish- the kid didn't instigate anything. The only reason any of this happened was because Cramer chose to confront the kid rather than alert the staff that he had parked in the spot. If a grown adult can't put up with a 'punk' mouthing off without breaking down and grabbing his neck, that grown adult shouldn't be going out in public.
Kristi Reed (Editor) October 11, 2012 at 06:55 PM
"Grown adults don't throw tantrums in a fast food restaurant and grab peoples necks" - exactly.
Wally October 11, 2012 at 07:12 PM
im so glad all of you know exactly what happened. maybe next time you should interview for the article, since you were aware of everything. it looks like Mr. Cramer went in looking for trouble. it was a damn parking space. who F**%ing cares THAT much? If Cramer wasnt so self entitled, im sure he could have found a spot elsewhere, or perhaps a bit farther away. but i guess going to jail and having a battery charge is worth the parking spot he didnt get anyway. I'm not saying teens nowadays are anywhere close to polite and respectful, but what do you expect when you go confront a stranger, and try to get a reaction out of them? you might not like the reaction you get. Cramer is just an idiot. all this over a parking spot. congratulations.
Cun Dup October 11, 2012 at 07:18 PM
ice pick the sidewall of their tire and leave.
Ted Logan October 11, 2012 at 07:42 PM
My god, it is absolutely depressing reading how all of you are making excuses for these punks and hiding behind "he's a grown man, he should have known better." These "kids" were driving, they are old enough to know better too. Instead they acted like punks and someone called them on it. Probably long overdue.
The Dish October 11, 2012 at 08:01 PM
Jon- Were you there? How do you know exactly what happened? If you were there and assessed that the adult could have avoided it all by 'walking away'.......couldn't the same be said for the kid???
The Dish October 11, 2012 at 08:03 PM
Thanks Dis......I am really smart and I have a beautiful voice!!!!
jon October 11, 2012 at 08:05 PM
Dish- Like I said, Cramer had no reason to confront the kid. All he had to do was alert the staff that the kid had parked there. Everything that followed was his fault and his fault alone.
jon October 11, 2012 at 08:07 PM
And Cramer should have known better than to confront someone on a matter that should have been handled by the staff. All could have been avoided if he had just done that in the first place rather than take matters into their owns hands.
The Dish October 11, 2012 at 08:09 PM
Well, just not in Dacula. http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/McDonalds-Fight-Assault-Greenwich-Village-Viral-Video-Violence-143594786.html
Mitch October 11, 2012 at 08:43 PM
Was it right for the teen to park in the Drive-Thru Only spot? Was it a good idea for the wife to approach the teens and ask if they failed to see the sign? Should the teens have responded disrespectfully? Even if Cramer was simply defending his wife should he have threatened dismemberment and anal corking? Did they really need to continue arguing over something so petty and stupid? Is a McGriddle better than a McMuffin? Did the teen have to instigate being punched? Did Cramer need to grab the teen by the neck? By grabbing his neck did that teach the teen how to respect others? Was Kramer vs Kramer really that good of a movie? If you answered ‘Yes’ to any of these questions you failed.
Kristi Reed (Editor) October 11, 2012 at 09:43 PM
"Is a McGriddle better than a McMuffin?" - Did you throw that in as a trick question? #QuestionWhichNoOneHasEverAnsweredYes
M.K. OSBORNE October 11, 2012 at 09:53 PM
Epic fail on both sides .
bob October 11, 2012 at 10:45 PM
Since the police were there anyway, how about towing the punks car. After all it was illegally parked. Now that would have been a learning experience for the mouthy punk.
jon October 11, 2012 at 11:33 PM
It's not technically illegal to park in the spots. They could only tow if the manager/business owners requests they be towed.
Cowboy October 11, 2012 at 11:38 PM
This is great, i am really enjoying reading these comments...They make me laugh.... Let me guess something.. Democrates- Kristi, Jon, Dis interested, Wally... Republicans- Cowboy, the Dish, Dacula O... Independants- Mitch, david... undecided- MK Osborne... Am I right ? ps. 47% of you may not like my comment...........
Shane Reynolds October 12, 2012 at 12:00 AM
Lord, please help our society. I'm not saying Cramer was right in everything he did, but it just gripes my tail that some little punk acts that way (and I will presume Cramer is telling the truth because I've seen similar behavior so many times and, frankly, it makes no sense for Cramer to do what he was doing if the teen were not acting disrespectfully), and then "tells" on Cramer, and kid gets away while Cramer has to spend money and go talk to a judge.
jon October 12, 2012 at 12:16 AM
There's no laws against running your mouth and being a dumb@ss...there are, however, laws against physical assault. Got what he deserved, no matter the circumstances.
Ed Varn October 12, 2012 at 12:16 AM
" Democrates- Kristi, Jon, Dis interested, Wally..." Wow, you aren't on this board very often, are you. Or maybe Kristi's had me fooled all these years:? Next you'll say I love Mike Bootrow.
Kristi Reed (Editor) October 12, 2012 at 12:28 AM
LOL! I have been called a lot of things, but never a Democrat!
Try Reading October 12, 2012 at 12:36 PM
Threats were made because simple law abiding citizens who believe in following the rules are fed up with a system that caters to the miscreants who blatantly disregard them. He knew that he could get away with it because law enforcement is forced to abandon common sense and side with the idiots.
Dawn Graeser October 14, 2012 at 07:37 PM
Kristi, I am as floored as you at these posts. Please folks, do not go to the elementary school during the week. First of all, most of you are condoning bad decisions...elementary school children make enough of those on their own and don't need your influence. Second, I see so many parents park in the fire lane (for more than a quick run in and out) at the elementary school and it is annoying. There is a perfectly fine parking lot and the lane is clearly marked for fire. BUT, I simply walk in and tend to my business...thankfully, no telling off anyone, putting my hands on anyone or corking anyone whatsoever. How ridiculous to think such a disrespectful adult taught anyone a lesson!
Santa John Dreggors October 15, 2012 at 01:25 AM
I can hardly believe what I'm reading. Dumb Teenagers can be disrespectful and turn out great. I can't think of any scenario where being shaken by an adult jackass is going help that happen. Elders teach a younger generation by showing respect, tolerance and most of all restraint. Pick your fights this one wasn't worth having.
Tammy Osier December 15, 2012 at 02:07 PM
For real, Kristi - lol. I know I wouldn't be mistaken for a democrat. lolol

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